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Tracked Items try harder!

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Kings Norton
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Tracked Items try harder!

Post by Kings Norton »

We have been told today in our office we must try harder with tracked items in other words if the householder is out at number 9 we must now knock on 11, 13, 15, 17, or back to 7, 5, 3, 1, till we can actually get rid of the item it means if a signature is required give it who ever then put a note on the p739 letting the customer know who has it.
The best bit is if you bring it back to the office there is a sheet in everyone's van and we have to fill in the address, the tracking number, reason why its not delivered and then all the other address's we have tried to deliver it.
Have you ever heard such codswallop in your life? I ain't got time for all that crap.... Oh and our Union man agreed it. Anyone else got to do this crap?
DB1100
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Re: Tracked Items try harder!

Post by DB1100 »

Kings Norton wrote:We have been told today in our office we must try harder with tracked items in other words if the householder is out at number 9 we must now knock on 11, 13, 15, 17, or back to 7, 5, 3, 1, till we can actually get rid of the item it means if a signature is required give it who ever then put a note on the p739 letting the customer know who has it.
The best bit is if you bring it back to the office there is a sheet in everyone's van and we have to fill in the address, the tracking number, reason why its not delivered and then all the other address's we have tried to deliver it.
Have you ever heard such codswallop in your life? I ain't got time for all that crap.... Oh and our Union man agreed it. Anyone else got to do this crap?
I'm not being funny,but I would do it,however one thing I won't do is go over my time so the more time I spend delivering 1 tracked item the better,play them at their own game
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chrisj
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Re: Tracked Items try harder!

Post by chrisj »

It is almost contradictory... If the tracked items are so important, why give it to neighbours?

Having said the above, there are not always that many, so one can try and get rid, if possible. However, trying so many neighbours will add to delivery time and something is bound to go wrong sooner or later.

I had one today that will go through a letter box but it required a signature and it specified on the parcel that it should not be delivered to a neighbour. So it went back to the office... I think they were tickets for something - rather important - almost like a Special. :d'oh!
deltaforce
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Re: Tracked Items try harder!

Post by deltaforce »

I believe there is a national agreement covering delivering to neighbours. The basis of it was that it wasn't mandatory but left to the discretion of the delivery officer.
Is this another agreement that's being creatively re defined by local and sector managers.
cyrus
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Re: Tracked Items try harder!

Post by cyrus »

In this sheet you should write "reason for non delivery:"I get sacked if parcel goes missing"
wabbithunta
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Post by wabbithunta »

cyrus wrote:In this sheet you should write "reason for non delivery:"I get sacked if parcel goes missing"
:Applause :thumbup
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bigbazza
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Re: Tracked Items try harder!

Post by bigbazza »

It's a no no if their not in they get a card and like it or lump it. :left:
Kings Norton
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Re: Tracked Items try harder!

Post by Kings Norton »

There is a few posties in my office that has the p739 wrote out on their break then it's one knock and in goes the card they don't care as long as they finish early. We watched a video only 12 months ago NOT to put and parcels in wheelie bins now if it states on the tracked packet ( put in blue bin) we have been told carry out that arrangement. Personally I think it's the PHGs don't want anything back in the office as it gives them more time eating and playing games on their phone.
saddlerposty
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Re: Tracked Items try harder!

Post by saddlerposty »

chrisj wrote:It is almost contradictory... If the tracked items are so important, why give it to neighbours?

Having said the above, there are not always that many, so one can try and get rid, if possible. However, trying so many neighbours will add to delivery time and something is bound to go wrong sooner or later.

I had one today that will go through a letter box but it required a signature and it specified on the parcel that it should not be delivered to a neighbour. So it went back to the office... I think they were tickets for something - rather important - almost like a Special. :d'oh!
yeah we had some as well think they where Justin Trousersnake tickets. not really important at all.
olilew
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Re: Tracked Items try harder!

Post by olilew »

If I remember correctly, Moya said in the latest issue of Courier that it is not voluntary now, we must try neighbours. :speak to the hand
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britwrit
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Post by britwrit »

Leaving valuable items with random neighbors = :d'oh!
IcanthelpthewayIam
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Re: Tracked Items try harder!

Post by IcanthelpthewayIam »

Kings Norton wrote:We have been told today in our office we must try harder with tracked items in other words if the householder is out at number 9 we must now knock on 11, 13, 15, 17, or back to 7, 5, 3, 1, till we can actually get rid of the item it means if a signature is required give it who ever then put a note on the p739 letting the customer know who has it.
The best bit is if you bring it back to the office there is a sheet in everyone's van and we have to fill in the address, the tracking number, reason why its not delivered and then all the other address's we have tried to deliver it.
Have you ever heard such codswallop in your life? I ain't got time for all that crap.... Oh and our Union man agreed it. Anyone else got to do this crap?

How exactly don't you have time??

Simply follow the correct cutting off procedures and you will still finish on your correct finishing time
Kings Norton
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Re: Tracked Items try harder!

Post by Kings Norton »

zx135 wrote:
Kings Norton wrote:We have been told today in our office we must try harder with tracked items in other words if the householder is out at number 9 we must now knock on 11, 13, 15, 17, or back to 7, 5, 3, 1, till we can actually get rid of the item it means if a signature is required give it who ever then put a note on the p739 letting the customer know who has it.
The best bit is if you bring it back to the office there is a sheet in everyone's van and we have to fill in the address, the tracking number, reason why its not delivered and then all the other address's we have tried to deliver it.
Have you ever heard such codswallop in your life? I ain't got time for all that crap.... Oh and our Union man agreed it. Anyone else got to do this crap?
How exactly don't you have time??


Simply follow the correct cutting off procedures and you will still finish on your correct finishing time
What you take out you have to deliver so if you have 10 tracked items its going to have a knock on effect if most are out. You cant say to a manager "I have 10 items they might be out take half a row of me" my walk is over the delivery span as it is.
IcanthelpthewayIam
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Re: Tracked Items try harder!

Post by IcanthelpthewayIam »

chrisj wrote:It is almost contradictory... If the tracked items are so important, why give it to neighbours?

Having said the above, there are not always that many, so one can try and get rid, if possible. However, trying so many neighbours will add to delivery time and something is bound to go wrong sooner or later.

I had one today that will go through a letter box but it required a signature and it specified on the parcel that it should not be delivered to a neighbour. So it went back to the office... I think they were tickets for something - rather important - almost like a Special. :d'oh!
The sneders know they may be delivered to neighbours and even if it says do not deliver to neighbour that should be ignored and the item delivered correctly as per product spec be that to a neighbour or into the wheely bin if that's where the safe place on the label says
IcanthelpthewayIam
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Re: Tracked Items try harder!

Post by IcanthelpthewayIam »

Kings Norton wrote:
zx135 wrote:
Kings Norton wrote:We have been told today in our office we must try harder with tracked items in other words if the householder is out at number 9 we must now knock on 11, 13, 15, 17, or back to 7, 5, 3, 1, till we can actually get rid of the item it means if a signature is required give it who ever then put a note on the p739 letting the customer know who has it.
The best bit is if you bring it back to the office there is a sheet in everyone's van and we have to fill in the address, the tracking number, reason why its not delivered and then all the other address's we have tried to deliver it.
Have you ever heard such codswallop in your life? I ain't got time for all that crap.... Oh and our Union man agreed it. Anyone else got to do this crap?

How exactly don't you have time??

Simply follow the correct cutting off procedures and you will still finish on your correct finishing time
What you take out you have to deliver so if you have 10 tracked items its going to have a knock on effect if most are out. You cant say to a manager "I have 10 items they might be out take half a row of me" my walk is over the delivery span as it is.
Well there's exactly your problem your not following the correct procedures, you say what you take out you have to deliver, that is not the correct procedure, you don't have to deliver it all, just follow the cutting off procedure and as soon as you realise you won't finish on time, call office and ask for instruction from dom what he wants you to do and inform him that you either are willing to claim ot or are going to cut off and finish on time and bring mail back