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Police asking where such and such live....

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postypie
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Police asking where such and such live....

Post by postypie »

this has happened twice to me this week where Police have asked me where such and such lives and have you heard of anyone called?? .......one had the cheek yesterday to ask me to go through my letters/mail and look for such and such's surname.....now this street is in a bit of a crime spot, but can you imagine If I had said such and such lives at 13 a....and this chap caught wind of it....I would get lynched.
Where do we stand where Police are concerned?
Should they asking me in the first place as this poses a threat to my safety if I disclose where such and such lives!
I nearly told one of them to f off today as in the back of his Police car he had a scruffy looking chav who was helping them to try find where such and such lives...!!!
:evil/mad :evil/mad :evil/mad
terry2972
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Re: Police asking where such and such live....

Post by terry2972 »

If they ask again just tell them that it isn't appropriate to ask for information due to your personal safety and if they don't get the message make a complaint about the officers concerned. I think if they want that sort of information they have to go through the correct channels
Himaggen
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Re: Police asking where such and such live....

Post by Himaggen »

As far as you are concerned you are forbidden to provide anybody with customer information.

You tell them, I'm sorry officer I am not allowed to provide the information you have requested.
beaker boy
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Re: Police asking where such and such live....

Post by beaker boy »

You could say that you are new to the round & don't know anyone,that works for me.
Sidley
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Re: Police asking where such and such live....

Post by Sidley »

I had to be taken off one walk as the locals thought I was a grass 'cause the local bizzies used to stop me for this malarkey all the time. No thought or subtlety from our boys in blue.

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bustedflush
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Re: Police asking where such and such live....

Post by bustedflush »

I was expressly told at my induction that information like that is subject to the DPA and it would be a disciplinary offence to give customer details out. Maybe a debt-collector offers you a bribe to locate a debtor, or as in this case a PC asks you. The Police cannot force you to go through mail, technically they'd need a warrant to do this. The PC overstepped his authority.
postypie
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Re: Police asking where such and such live....

Post by postypie »

beaker boy wrote:You could say that you are new to the round & don't know anyone,that works for me.

That is more or less why I did lol
Glenno
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Re: Police asking where such and such live....

Post by Glenno »

When you join RM you have to sign the official secrets act, or at least you used to have to, this prevents you from giving out info willy nilly to all and sundrie, this now comes under the data protection act, the police , or debt collectors or indeed anybody else should NOT be asking for this kind of info, let them go thru the correct channels
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IcanthelpthewayIam
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Re: Police asking where such and such live....

Post by IcanthelpthewayIam »

tell them to go through official channels, get them to contact your manager who will direct them to contact IB who can then help them
arnold cheshire
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Re: Police asking where such and such live....

Post by arnold cheshire »

zx135 wrote:tell them to go through official channels, get them to contact your manager who will direct them to contact IB who can then help them
tell them to contact the council to check electoral roll why can ib help ?
IcanthelpthewayIam
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Re: Police asking where such and such live....

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bringon4dayweeks wrote:
zx135 wrote:tell them to go through official channels, get them to contact your manager who will direct them to contact IB who can then help them
tell them to contact the council to check electoral roll why can ib help ?
because thats the official channel and then IB will get them the required information, IB would then advise them if a warrant was required for the information etc and they could then approach you for the info and then pass it on to the police thus going down the correct route to get the information, IB have gotten warrants to intercept mail on behalf of the police in our DO
arnold cheshire
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Re: Police asking where such and such live....

Post by arnold cheshire »

zx135 wrote:
bringon4dayweeks wrote:
zx135 wrote:tell them to go through official channels, get them to contact your manager who will direct them to contact IB who can then help them
tell them to contact the council to check electoral roll why can ib help ?
because thats the official channel and then IB will get them the required information, IB would then advise them if a warrant was required for the information etc and they could then approach you for the info and then pass it on to the police thus going down the correct route to get the information, IB have gotten warrants to intercept mail on behalf of the police in our DO
ib arent official they would need a court warrant to disclose information or enter property
IcanthelpthewayIam
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Re: Police asking where such and such live....

Post by IcanthelpthewayIam »

bringon4dayweeks wrote:
zx135 wrote:
bringon4dayweeks wrote:
zx135 wrote:tell them to go through official channels, get them to contact your manager who will direct them to contact IB who can then help them
tell them to contact the council to check electoral roll why can ib help ?
because thats the official channel and then IB will get them the required information, IB would then advise them if a warrant was required for the information etc and they could then approach you for the info and then pass it on to the police thus going down the correct route to get the information, IB have gotten warrants to intercept mail on behalf of the police in our DO
ib arent official they would need a court warrant to disclose information or enter property
they are Royal Mails Official Chanel for the police, and they can disclose information without a warrant depending on the information
arnold cheshire
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Re: Police asking where such and such live....

Post by arnold cheshire »

zx135 wrote:
bringon4dayweeks wrote:
zx135 wrote:
bringon4dayweeks wrote:
zx135 wrote:tell them to go through official channels, get them to contact your manager who will direct them to contact IB who can then help them
tell them to contact the council to check electoral roll why can ib help ?
because thats the official channel and then IB will get them the required information, IB would then advise them if a warrant was required for the information etc and they could then approach you for the info and then pass it on to the police thus going down the correct route to get the information, IB have gotten warrants to intercept mail on behalf of the police in our DO
ib arent official they would need a court warrant to disclose information or enter property
they are Royal Mails Official Chanel for the police, and they can disclose information without a warrant depending on the information
where does it say that they are no different than joe public reporting a crime or a member of security from a shopping center
IcanthelpthewayIam
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Re: Police asking where such and such live....

Post by IcanthelpthewayIam »

bringon4dayweeks wrote:
zx135 wrote:
bringon4dayweeks wrote:
zx135 wrote:
bringon4dayweeks wrote:
zx135 wrote:tell them to go through official channels, get them to contact your manager who will direct them to contact IB who can then help them
tell them to contact the council to check electoral roll why can ib help ?
because thats the official channel and then IB will get them the required information, IB would then advise them if a warrant was required for the information etc and they could then approach you for the info and then pass it on to the police thus going down the correct route to get the information, IB have gotten warrants to intercept mail on behalf of the police in our DO
ib arent official they would need a court warrant to disclose information or enter property
they are Royal Mails Official Chanel for the police, and they can disclose information without a warrant depending on the information
where does it say that they are no different than joe public reporting a crime or a member of security from a shopping center
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