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Government Support?

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CHARLIE BEAR
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Government Support?

Post by CHARLIE BEAR »

Hi Comrades

I am glad to report that there is massive support at my workplace in Somerset. It's so good to be able to chat to colleagues on the picket line, even if it is freezing.

I understand that the Tories wish to appoint a government minister to be in control of Royal Mail once again, assuming they win the next general election. Why is this Labour government not attempting to look after the working people they claim to have represented over the past hundred years? It's a disgrace that these clowns (Leighton and Crozier) are left to ruin this public service, especially as it's still a nationalised industry. What Labour said in opposition seems different to their actions over the past ten years.

It is not time for CWU to join with other unions and find another political party to support or start a new one?

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CHARLIE BEAR wrote:It is not time for CWU to join with other unions

Yes.

CHARLIE BEAR wrote:and find another political party to support or start a new one?
No.
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CHARLIE BEAR
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Government Support?

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Hi again Comrades,
Sorry to bring this up again, but Gordon Brown recently said that the striking postal workers should return to work. Should we still finance the Labour Party?
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CHARLIE BEAR wrote:Hi again Comrades,
Sorry to bring this up again, but Gordon Brown recently said that the striking postal workers should return to work. Should we still finance the Labour Party?
Charlie Bear
I haven't financed the bastards since 1998 comrade. I'd rather lick my own arse than fund that set of ward closing, school shutting, baby bombing, pension robbing, anti-union scum. I'm for peace and the international solidarity of the working class, so I've got nothing in common with that shower of s**t.
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mh80
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Re: Government Support?

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IWW Fellow Worker wrote:
CHARLIE BEAR wrote:Hi again Comrades,
Sorry to bring this up again, but Gordon Brown recently said that the striking postal workers should return to work. Should we still finance the Labour Party?
Charlie Bear

I haven't financed the bastards since 1998 comrade. I'd rather lick my own arse than fund that set of ward closing, school shutting, baby bombing, pension robbing, anti-union scum. I'm for peace and the international solidarity of the working class, so I've got nothing in common with that shower of s**t.
I don't think we should finance them if they're going to ignore us like they are doing.
I thought that the CWU fund Labour? take it you're not in the CWU?
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mh80 wrote:
IWW Fellow Worker wrote:
CHARLIE BEAR wrote:Hi again Comrades,
Sorry to bring this up again, but Gordon Brown recently said that the striking postal workers should return to work. Should we still finance the Labour Party?
Charlie Bear
I don't think we should finance them if they're going to ignore us like they are doing.

I haven't financed the bastards since 1998 comrade. I'd rather lick my own arse than fund that set of ward closing, school shutting, baby bombing, pension robbing, anti-union scum. I'm for peace and the international solidarity of the working class, so I've got nothing in common with that shower of s**t.
I thought that the CWU fund Labour? take it you're not in the CWU?
I certainly am in the CWU and the UPW/UCW before it. I opted out of the political fund in 1998 when I was the office rep and got about 90% of the rest of the office to do likewise.
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mh80
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I think there's a lot of people who would do the same if they knew they could opt out.
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How can we opt out of the political fund?
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mh80 wrote:I think there's a lot of people who would do the same if they knew they could opt out.
I think you are right. There is no 'opt out' clause on the new membership forms. That's because on the old yellow forms you could just tick a box to opt out and quite a few people were doing just that once Blair's motives became apparent, so they dropped the 'opt out' box from the forms. Then Class War Federation, Solidarity Federation and the IWW printed leaflets informing people they could opt out and how to go about it if they wanted to. They dropped these in pillar boxes around the country. In our case, I kept on trying to get opt out forms from the then Branch Sec for weeks, but he was a Labour councillor and refused to let us have them. We got them in the end though. The weekly amount is coppers, but the feeling of knowing you aren't funding that mob is beyond price.
All we need now is for supermarket chains and breweries to allow us to opt out of the portion of their profits which go towards funding the Tory scum.
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doorstep it wrote:How can we opt out of the political fund?
I think Teebs might be able to find the thread but Johnston65 posted a form on here a few weeks ago which can be printed off.
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Thanks IWW,
By the way, what does IWW mean and stand for?
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IWW Fellow Worker wrote:
doorstep it wrote:How can we opt out of the political fund?
I think Teebs might be able to find the thread but Johnston65 posted a form on here a few weeks ago which can be printed off.
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/forum/vi ... php?t=3855
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doorstep it wrote:Thanks IWW,
By the way, what does IWW mean and stand for?
Industrial Workers of the World.

www.iww.org.uk
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doorstep it wrote:Thanks IWW,
By the way, what does IWW mean and stand for?
http://www.iww.org/culture/official/preamble.shtml

Hope you did not mind me jumping in there but as I was pasting a link anyway.
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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
doorstep it wrote:Thanks IWW,
By the way, what does IWW mean and stand for?
http://www.iww.org/culture/official/preamble.shtml

Hope you did not mind me jumping in there but as I was pasting a link anyway.
Not at all. I think many people who are not members of the IWW will agree with the preamble.
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