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holiday for current year

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maximus12
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holiday for current year

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At the start of the holiday year (april 2013) I was on a 25 hour contract which changed to full time in september. I never worked 25 hours I always worked 35+. I don't know how this effects my holiday entitlement. My contract said something about 4 weeks 2.5 days but pro rata for part timers. I've had 3 weeks off does this sound right?

I don't want to be conned out of holiday if I'm due more!!!
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Your leave is now based on hours (the PSP system) so whatever hours your contract is for you will get those hours off.
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DGP1 wrote:Your leave is now based on hours (the PSP system) so whatever hours your contract is for you will get those hours off.
that doesnt answer the question :nana
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maximus12 wrote:At the start of the holiday year (april 2013) I was on a 25 hour contract which changed to full time in september. I never worked 25 hours I always worked 35+. I don't know how this effects my holiday entitlement. My contract said something about 4 weeks 2.5 days but pro rata for part timers. I've had 3 weeks off does this sound right?

I don't want to be conned out of holiday if I'm due more!!!
i would think holidays have nothing to do with overtime did you work a five day week ?
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Legally the pay you get for your holiday should be pro-rata to the average pay you received in the preceding 12 weeks, excepting non-contractual o/t.
The number of days remains the same.
Example - today your manager asks you to go full-time for the next 12 weeks and you sign something - the weeks holiday pay you earn should be the same as those full-time 12 weeks.

Second example. Manager asks, weekly, on an ad-hoc basis you work full-time, nothing in writing. Your holiday pay stays at 25 hours per week.
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bustedflush wrote:Legally the pay you get for your holiday should be pro-rata to the average pay you received in the preceding 12 weeks, excepting non-contractual o/t.
The number of days remains the same.
Example - today your manager asks you to go full-time for the next 12 weeks and you sign something - the weeks holiday pay you earn should be the same as those full-time 12 weeks.

Second example. Manager asks, weekly, on an ad-hoc basis you work full-time, nothing in writing. Your holiday pay stays at 25 hours per week.
i dont think they are asking about holiday pay just how many days off
maximus12
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Yes I worked 5 days a week and nothing was in writing for the overtime hours. So in this case I would still be due 4 weeks 2.5 days but 5 months of that entitlement would be at 25 hours and the rest at 39?
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bringon4dayweeks wrote:
bustedflush wrote:Legally the pay you get for your holiday should be pro-rata to the average pay you received in the preceding 12 weeks, excepting non-contractual o/t.
The number of days remains the same.
Example - today your manager asks you to go full-time for the next 12 weeks and you sign something - the weeks holiday pay you earn should be the same as those full-time 12 weeks.

Second example. Manager asks, weekly, on an ad-hoc basis you work full-time, nothing in writing. Your holiday pay stays at 25 hours per week.
i dont think they are asking about holiday pay just how many days off

Should get 4 weeks and 2.5 days, pro rata to the % of the holiday year he has worked for the company. So if they where employed on April 1st they should get the full entitlement. However depending if and what rotation is in place t is possible that their entire leave allocation as been used booking 3 weeks leave due to it now being hourly based, ie a 3 on 1 off rotation requires 52 hours of leave time being used in order to book a week off. (basic entitlement is 175.5 hours)

I think :crazy:
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five months at 25 hrs and 7 months at 39 hrs 1.8 days a month on average
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Re: holiday for current year

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maximus12 wrote:At the start of the holiday year (april 2013) I was on a 25 hour contract which changed to full time in september. I never worked 25 hours I always worked 35+. I don't know how this effects my holiday entitlement. My contract said something about 4 weeks 2.5 days but pro rata for part timers. I've had 3 weeks off does this sound right?

I don't want to be conned out of holiday if I'm due more!!!
i think this could be right make sure you get 4 weeks 2.5 days from this april did you have most of your time off after september ?
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You get the same amount of weeks off no mater how many hours you work, BUT you only get paid at your normal week rate for your holiday pay. When I first started the manager tried to cut my holiday entitlement (less time off) because I was part time, work for no money. That was the start of bad times, till he left before he was asked to go.
maximus12
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It really is confusing. I think I will just believe the dom as he said iv now booked all iv got to book. I had 1 weeks holiday paid at 25 hours and the other 2 weeks paid at 39.

Next year will be easier to keep track of as im full time now.
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maximus12 wrote:It really is confusing. I think I will just believe the dom as he said iv now booked all iv got to book. I had 1 weeks holiday paid at 25 hours and the other 2 weeks paid at 39.

Next year will be easier to keep track of as im full time now.
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maximus12 wrote:It really is confusing. I think I will just believe the dom as he said iv now booked all iv got to book. I had 1 weeks holiday paid at 25 hours and the other 2 weeks paid at 39.

Next year will be easier to keep track of as im full time now.
1 how many days off annual leave had you actually had
2 just checking you have always worked a 5 day week and not a 3 or 4 day week(on the 25 hour contract)?

you should have had 22 and half days off, ignoring what hours you should have been paid on them, so you should have been able to take 4 full weeks plus 2 and half days extra
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zx135 wrote:
maximus12 wrote:It really is confusing. I think I will just believe the dom as he said iv now booked all iv got to book. I had 1 weeks holiday paid at 25 hours and the other 2 weeks paid at 39.

Next year will be easier to keep track of as im full time now.
1 how many days off annual leave had you actually had
2 just checking you have always worked a 5 day week and not a 3 or 4 day week(on the 25 hour contract)?

you should have had 22 and half days off, ignoring what hours you should have been paid on them, so you should have been able to take 4 full weeks plus 2 and half days extra
Yes always worked a 5 day week

I've only had 15 days so it does seem I'm due more. I will get onto it monday because I don't want to lose out.