Bring back Driving Allowance

[deristrong]

I don't mind driving while my partner texts his girlfriend. I don't mind doing the weekly vehicle check while he has a cup of coffee. I don't mind getting a bollocking if something goes wrong with the van. After all I do get extra mone...WHAT?...Hang On!..I get sweet FA? Jeez!

[Hitcher]

You've got less prep and smaller loops and to quote our office "You signed for it!"

[Jamesethefirst]

You've got less prep and smaller loops:

Not where I work you don't. Just goes to show what another ill thought out idea this was,from the Stupid Ideas Department,mind you to be fair,they are consistent .

[boo634]

Have always got 6 pound a week driving allowance for the past 18 years even though Ive only just gone back driving since our resign B

[OnAFlyer]

You've got less prep and smaller loops and to quote our office "You signed for it!"

Why should drivers have less prep?

[gazzer]

You've got less prep and smaller loops and to quote our office "You signed for it!"

Aye right

[clashcityrocker]

You've got less prep and smaller loops and to quote our office "You signed for it!"

Why should drivers have less prep?

Because they have to have time for van checks, retrieving and signing for keys etc.

[fishtank]

Because they have to have time for van checks, retrieving and signing for keys etc.

The "idea" was that the driver performs the vehicle check while the non-driver loads the van and both are "supposed" to sign for their keys individually.

[ted_e_bear]

Totally agree, got all the extra responsibility like the checks etc, also if you're unlucky enough to be involved in an accident you're almost hung out to dry with an investigation that our dom says can result in dismissal or if you're lucky a 2 year serious.

Our dom also says that although royal mail self insure they now participate in the information sharing that insurance companies do, so if you inadvertently "forget" to inform your car insurers that you've had an accident in a works van to avoid having to pay more for your car insurance, then potentially you could find yourself uninsured in the event of an accident in your own car.

At our place the driver tends to be responsible for signing for the specials so ultimately responsible for ensuring they're delivered on time and not lost.

All this for no extra pay, personally I think you should receive at least a tenner a week extra if you're the driver.

[dvbuk55]

You're absolutely right there should be a difference in pay for the added responsibility and the union should have had their wits about them on the modernisation agreement instead of saying drivers had to drive they should have fought for an allowance - guess who didn't want it?

[arnold cheshire]

Have always got 6 pound a week driving allowance for the past 18 years even though Ive only just gone back driving since our resign B

you must owe them money back then

[cloherty1976]

You're absolutely right there should be a difference in pay for the added responsibility and the union should have had their wits about them on the modernisation agreement instead of saying drivers had to drive they should have fought for an allowance - guess who didn't want it?

That's why I went to logistics but they done away with allowance and also the drivers bonus for no accidents and tachometer infringements

[dvbuk55]

Have always got 6 pound a week driving allowance for the past 18 years even though Ive only just gone back driving since our resign B

you must owe them money back then

It was grandfather rights but I thought if you went off driving by choice you lost it.

[fishtank]

It was grandfather rights but I thought if you went off driving by choice you lost it.

DRIVING ALLOWANCE

The new package will retain non-pensionable assigned allowances as personal reserved rights for the following employees:

• £6.00 per week (pro-rata to conditioned hours) for employees graded PMN/women, who are not receiving another assigned non-shift allowance, and whose substantive job on the 31 January 2000 involves driving a Royal Mail van (of less than 3.5 tonnes) for at least two conditioned hours per day. This will include reserve jobs dedicated to covering driving duties as of 31 January 2000;

• £6.00 per week (pro-rata to conditioned hours) for employees graded PMN/women or Streamline Level 4, who are not receiving another assigned non-shift allowance nor the £6.00 for van driving, and whose substantive job on 31 January 2000 involves driving a fork-lift truck for at least two conditioned hours per day. This will include reserve jobs dedicated to covering fork-lift duties as of 31 January 2000;

These allowances will be frozen and retained on a personal rights bases by these employees only so long as they remain in the same job as on 31 January 2000. There will be no payments for hours worked on overtime or Scheduled Attendance. These assigned allowances will continue to be paid during annual leave and other paid absence. Employees on rotations as of 31 January 2000 will receive an average payment.

[music4essex]

In1989- 2003 I was a royal mail driver and got the allowance

Then I came off driving until 1yr ago/ so should I still be entitled to the van allowance under grandfathers rights

Essex mum