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Sending school and firms mail back that are closed over Xmas

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Post1977
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Sending school and firms mail back that are closed over Xmas

Post by Post1977 »

Told by managers that any school or company that have not paid for keep safe and have no access to delivery mail. That mail must be killed off.
Would like to know if all offices are doing this.
Hitcher
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Post by Hitcher »

Nah, just left in the frames.
north london driver
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Re: Sending school and firms mail back that are closed over

Post by north london driver »

Post1977 wrote:Told by managers that any school or company that have not paid for keep safe and have no access to delivery mail. That mail must be killed off.
Would like to know if all offices are doing this.
if your manager wants this mail killed off then it is down to him to sign the killed off mail.
do not sign the mail as killed off. if you know there is a firm / office or school that will reopen after
christmas then leave the mail in his office he is the office manager let him have the decision to make.
when the s**t hits the fan his name will be on the items.remember managers dont like making decisions.
clashcityrocker
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Post by clashcityrocker »

Why would it be instantly killed off?
If you have a block of flats where you cannot gain access, you don't immediately return all the mail to sender.
There is a procedure in place, so why shouldn't that same procedure be followed?

By the time that has been exhausted, most firms/schools will have reopened.
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Post1977
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Post by Post1977 »

For the block of flats there's a sticker for no access to building trades button off.
Nothing for the schools and firms.
Started doing this in the summer leaflet got sent to schools halfway through summer holidays that if no keep safe In place mail would be returned. Shocking!
Something to do with audits.
Mangers in office don't care about customers money mad and trying to look good to higher managers
onearmedbandit
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Post by onearmedbandit »

manager is right , this has been royal mail policy for at least four yr
hans solo
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Post by hans solo »

quite right
does local councils give a damn when they send out council tax demands no they cant wait to add on charges and refer them to debt agencies for a fee
so they should pay for services as well if they dont pay for the service kill it off
DB1100
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Post by DB1100 »

hans solo wrote:quite right
does local councils give a damn when they send out council tax demands no they cant wait to add on charges and refer them to debt agencies for a fee
so they should pay for services as well if they dont pay for the service kill it off
And where do the local councils get there money from?
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mr deeds
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do what you think is right just keep it in frame and tell the school /company what the tw*t was going to do.....enhanced tips next year?
5plusbonusball
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Post by 5plusbonusball »

:crazy: managers who are jobsworths like that are either up their bosses chuff (well most are) or just want to damage rm's goodwill built up over 200 years. :crazy: even though rm's goodwill has already been irrevesibly damaged by the lastest wave of board members ! :cry
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Himaggen
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Post by Himaggen »

A Business Keepsafe, currently costs £46, would it be fair for Royal Mail to charge some customers for that service then allow others that same service for free?
stokes11eg
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Post by stokes11eg »

Himaggen wrote:A Business Keepsafe, currently costs £46, would it be fair for Royal Mail to charge some customers for that service then allow others that same service for free?
:Very Happy .Over the years I did many schools, and I can say that the vast majority of the mail that came in over the holidays was junk mail--trays and trays kept under your frame for weeks---I think the Schools should pay R/M for getting rid---never mind keeping them!
steven100
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Post by steven100 »

I thought you got 18 days to try and gain access.
WornOutPosty
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Post by WornOutPosty »

We just leave it in / under / on top of the fitting till they re-open during any holidays :roll:
Acca Dacca
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Post by Acca Dacca »

Well think of it this way;

When you attempt to deliver a parcel and the recipient is not in - it gets held at the callers office for two weeks. Whats the difference between that and mail?
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next