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Safe place packets
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MummyMail
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Safe place packets
Hello,
Just wondering what people's opinions are on leaving small packets/parcels in outhouses, garages and other agreed (by the home owner) 'Safe places!' Obviously a recorded or SD is an absolute no - no... but what about other items!?.
Just wondering what people's opinions are on leaving small packets/parcels in outhouses, garages and other agreed (by the home owner) 'Safe places!' Obviously a recorded or SD is an absolute no - no... but what about other items!?.
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Lounge Lizard
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Re: Safe place packets
Yes, but only on a round you've done for years, with residents you know and trust and in weatherproof 'safe places' out of sight of a road or right of way. 
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IcanthelpthewayIam
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Re: Safe place packets
its not allowed and you can lose your job if caught repeatedly doing it, we are paid to deliver items correctly not to leave them unsecureMummyMail wrote:Hello,
Just wondering what people's opinions are on leaving small packets/parcels in outhouses, garages and other agreed (by the home owner) 'Safe places!' Obviously a recorded or SD is an absolute no - no... but what about other items!?.
Tracked items however can be left in the safeplace that the sender has specified on the packaging, and it will show on the system where that safe place is and also when you deliver on the PDA you will select safeplace as the deliver information
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Pat Ostman
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Re: Safe place packets
Is the safeplace instruction on the packet mandatory?
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IcanthelpthewayIam
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Re: Safe place packets
no but what reason would you have for not using it?Pat Ostman wrote:Is the safeplace instruction on the packet mandatory?
remember its the customer that has specifically stated they want it left in that location if no one in and also it is recorded on the pda as being left in the designated safe location and that location is accessible by managers after it has been delivered
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IcanthelpthewayIam
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Re: Safe place packets
Lounge Lizard wrote:Yes, but only on a round you've done for years, with residents you know and trust and in weatherproof 'safe places' out of sight of a road or right of way.
shouldnt be doing that even with trusted residents, our job is deliver things correctly as the customer has paid for, doing that is not doing the job correctly and shouldnt be done
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borgpicard
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Re: Safe place packets
The only safe place is in the office, if people order packets, do me the courtesy of being in !!, I dont care what it says on packets, it goes back to the locker, and I have the backing of my lino and dim
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billyboy123
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Re: Safe place packets
i never leave anything anywhere cos when the s**t hits the fan its the postie who will be out of a job and thats the long and short of it write a docket out takes 2 mins and could save your job
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Son Of God
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Re: Safe place packets
Regardless of any instruction to leave in a safe place, (tracked) if a postie feels it is not safe, then they have the right to leave a notice left and return to the DO.Pat Ostman wrote:Is the safeplace instruction on the packet mandatory?
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Son Of God
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Re: Safe place packets
What he says :)billyboy123 wrote:i never leave anything anywhere cos when the s**t hits the fan its the postie who will be out of a job and thats the long and short of it write a docket out takes 2 mins and could save your job
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Sidley
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Re: Safe place packets
There's a note on one punter's door asking for parcels to be left with neighbours even if they're to be signed for.
Personally I am of the opinion that the sender is the customer and wants the signature of someone at the address not someone nearby so I never leave signed fors with neighbours. Am I wrong?
Thread hijack, sorry.
Personally I am of the opinion that the sender is the customer and wants the signature of someone at the address not someone nearby so I never leave signed fors with neighbours. Am I wrong?
Thread hijack, sorry.
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fishtank
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Re: Safe place packets
Because to be honest it's not worth the potential grief.zx135 wrote:no but what reason would you have for not using it?
If you leave it in a "safe place" and it gets nicked you have no proof you actually left it in the safe place to start with so obviously some suspicion will fall on you.Maybe not a lot if you're an experienced postie but if it happens a couple of times you will find yourself under surveillence by IB or whatever they're calling themselves now so why take the risk?
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Son Of God
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Re: Safe place packets
No, you're not wrong. Never leave signed for items with neighbours.Sidley wrote:There's a note on one punter's door asking for parcels to be left with neighbours even if they're to be signed for.
Personally I am of the opinion that the sender is the customer and wants the signature of someone at the address not someone nearby so I never leave signed fors with neighbours. Am I wrong?
Thread hijack, sorry.
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IcanthelpthewayIam
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Re: Safe place packets
no thats wrong, you are supposed to attempt to leave signed for parcels with neighbours, the only ones you dont attempt are special delivery ones or at addresses where the recipient has opted out of deliver to neighbour, or if postie deems the neighbours address as unsafe, there is no blanket ban and doing such is not doing your job correctlySon Of God wrote:No, you're not wrong. Never leave signed for items with neighbours.Sidley wrote:There's a note on one punter's door asking for parcels to be left with neighbours even if they're to be signed for.
Personally I am of the opinion that the sender is the customer and wants the signature of someone at the address not someone nearby so I never leave signed fors with neighbours. Am I wrong?
Thread hijack, sorry.
Its now in the terms and conditions of signed for etc so the sender has actually agreed to us delivering them to a neighbour in the event that the no one availible at the recipient address
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IcanthelpthewayIam
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Re: Safe place packets
well simply not doing the job properly because of potential grief not sure i agree with that, if you cant be bothered doing one part of the job correctly its a slipery slope where you start to go down, cutting corners here and there that you dont agree with, next it will be nesting d2d, then something else....fishtank wrote:Because to be honest it's not worth the potential grief.zx135 wrote:no but what reason would you have for not using it?
If you leave it in a "safe place" and it gets nicked you have no proof you actually left it in the safe place to start with so obviously some suspicion will fall on you.Maybe not a lot if you're an experienced postie but if it happens a couple of times you will find yourself under surveillence by IB or whatever they're calling themselves now so why take the risk?
i'll just stick to doing the job correctly