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Christmas bonus if off sick?

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1984
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Christmas bonus if off sick?

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Been off sick for 3 weeks, and will likely be off for another 2 weeks

Does anyone know if I still get the bonus?

Thanks
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Re: Christmas bonus if off sick?

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If you are on full pay yes. If on reduced pay you loose a bit.
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1984 wrote:Been off sick for 3 weeks, and will likely be off for another 2 weeks

Does anyone know if I still get the bonus?

Thanks
25% for one week 50% for 2 and 100% for 4 weeks took off you in January.
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You will still get £100 Christmas bonus and £100 colleague share thingy even if you are on sick unless like said above you are on reduced pay.

For each full week an individual receives no pay during the pressure period ( eg unpaid special leave etc ) the individual will lose one quarter of the supplement.

For each full week where basic pay is reduced for sick pay pension rate the individual will lose one quarter of the supplement.

For each full week where basic pay is reduced for sick half pay the individual will lose one - eighth of the supplement
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celerycelery wrote:You will still get £100 Christmas bonus and £100 colleague share thingy even if you are on sick unless like said above you are on reduced pay.
Not on last years if anything is to go by I would not encourage false hope for someone if I were you and delude yourself and others.
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Re: Christmas bonus if off sick?

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Do we have a definitive answer on this? Ive been off for around 4 months, signed off by my GP. My current sicknote runs out at the end of December. My GP will sign me off again then. I will not be at work at all in December but Im on full pay. Will I get anything bonus/payment at all?
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tigercat wrote:Do we have a definitive answer on this? Ive been off for around 4 months, signed off by my GP. My current sicknote runs out at the end of December. My GP will sign me off again then. I will not be at work at all in December but Im on full pay. Will I get anything bonus/payment at all?
If you are on full pay you will get your Christmas bonus
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Thanks P13, Ive read so many conflicting views on this subject. The money will come in handy.
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You may get it but may have to pay it back in January getting is one thing keeping it is another!
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k979aaa wrote:You may get it but may have to pay it back in January getting is one thing keeping it is another!
No you don't the agreement states quite clearly you only lose a percentage of your christmas bonus if you are on reduced pay, which is half pay or no pay or you have taken unpaid leave or industrial action
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P13 wrote:
k979aaa wrote:You may get it but may have to pay it back in January getting is one thing keeping it is another!
No you don't the agreement states quite clearly you only lose a percentage of your christmas bonus if you are on reduced pay, which is half pay or no pay or you have taken unpaid leave or industrial action
Which agreement is this? And as a postman of 24+ years I know they can claw it back see here http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... =0#p598723" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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dingo wrote:The Royal Mail pay directive states :

The directive authorises a one off christmas supplement to operational and operational support employees in post on 29th November 2010 who complete the four week christmas pressure period . The payment is a flat rate of £100 per person (paid pro -rata to part time employees and will be paid on Friday 17th December 2010. The payment is not consolidated , neither is reckonable for overtime , allowances , SA , nor pension purposes. It is liable for tax and National insurance.

Part time employees are entitled to the xmas supplement on a pro rata basis. They will recive the payment pro rata to a full time (eg 40/39 5/39 hours ) week according to their contracted hours on the date paymentis made. Part time employees that vary their contractual hours and work full time for a two week period during the christmas pressure period will be paid the full christmas supplement.

Eligiblity for payment is linked to employment during the christmas pressure period.

For each full week an indivdual recieves no pay during the presure period ( eg unpaid special leave etc ) the indivdual will lose one quarter of the supplement.

For each full week where basic pay is reduced for sick pay pension rate the indivdual will lose one quarter of the supplement.

For each full week where basic pay is reduced for sick half pay the indivdual will lose one - eighth of the supplement

For each day counted midnight to midnight excluding bank holidays on which an employee takes unofficial industrial action their supplement will be abted by 10%
for officail action it will be abted by 3%
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Re: Christmas bonus if off sick?

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k979aaa wrote:
P13 wrote:
k979aaa wrote:You may get it but may have to pay it back in January getting is one thing keeping it is another!
No you don't the agreement states quite clearly you only lose a percentage of your christmas bonus if you are on reduced pay, which is half pay or no pay or you have taken unpaid leave or industrial action
Which agreement is this? And as a postman of 24+ years I know they can claw it back see here http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... =0#p598723" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The agreement that Postman has posted above and as a Postman of 30 years who had ten weeks off sick during Christmas 2011 I know for a fact that I was paid the full christmas bonus
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POSTMAN wrote:
dingo wrote:The Royal Mail pay directive states :

The directive authorises a one off christmas supplement to operational and operational support employees in post on 29th November 2010 who complete the four week christmas pressure period . The payment is a flat rate of £100 per person (paid pro -rata to part time employees and will be paid on Friday 17th December 2010. The payment is not consolidated , neither is reckonable for overtime , allowances , SA , nor pension purposes. It is liable for tax and National insurance.

Part time employees are entitled to the xmas supplement on a pro rata basis. They will recive the payment pro rata to a full time (eg 40/39 5/39 hours ) week according to their contracted hours on the date paymentis made. Part time employees that vary their contractual hours and work full time for a two week period during the christmas pressure period will be paid the full christmas supplement.

Eligiblity for payment is linked to employment during the christmas pressure period.

For each full week an indivdual recieves no pay during the presure period ( eg unpaid special leave etc ) the indivdual will lose one quarter of the supplement.

For each full week where basic pay is reduced for sick pay pension rate the indivdual will lose one quarter of the supplement.

For each full week where basic pay is reduced for sick half pay the indivdual will lose one - eighth of the supplement

For each day counted midnight to midnight excluding bank holidays on which an employee takes unofficial industrial action their supplement will be abted by 10%
for officail action it will be abted by 3%
But they could still claw it back as you were not available for work.
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I was off sick the xmas before last all way through xmas pressure and got the bonus and no claw back as per agreement.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.