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2nd stage warning

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Muppet71
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2nd stage warning

Post by Muppet71 »

Hello, I was issued 2nd stage warning in Febuary this year and haven't been sick since,obviously that was issued on the old procedure so what stage am I on now if any?
shepherdess
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Re: 2nd stage warning

Post by shepherdess »

you go back to 1st you only need to go 6 months now
fishtank
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Re: 2nd stage warning

Post by fishtank »

Muppet71 wrote:Hello, I was issued 2nd stage warning in Febuary this year and haven't been sick since,obviously that was issued on the old procedure so what stage am I on now if any?
You're not on any stage now.
http://www.cwu.org/assets/_files/docume ... nce_Pr.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Annex 1.
Employees on 2nd review who do better than the standard required with no more than one absence of four days or less will come off the formal attendance process.

Employees on 2nd review with one absence of more than four days but less than ten will revert to 1st review and will remain on Review 1 for six months.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
Lounge Lizard
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Re: 2nd stage warning

Post by Lounge Lizard »

fishtank wrote:
Muppet71 wrote:Hello, I was issued 2nd stage warning in Febuary this year and haven't been sick since,obviously that was issued on the old procedure so what stage am I on now if any?
You're not on any stage now.
http://www.cwu.org/assets/_files/docume ... nce_Pr.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Annex 1.
Employees on 2nd review who do better than the standard required with no more than one absence of four days or less will come off the formal attendance process.

Employees on 2nd review with one absence of more than four days but less than ten will revert to 1st review and will remain on Review 1 for six months.
A bit arrogant of Ray Ellis isn't it to just have a stylised 'E' as his signature on that document ? :shock:
PhilthyPhil
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Re: 2nd stage warning

Post by PhilthyPhil »

Sherpas Rule wrote:My manager had me in for a meeting about my attendance the other week, according to him stages no longer exist?
it is now called review 1, review 2 and consideration for dismissal instead of stage 1,2,3
rhino49
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Re: 2nd stage warning

Post by rhino49 »

PhilthyPhil wrote:
Sherpas Rule wrote:My manager had me in for a meeting about my attendance the other week, according to him stages no longer exist?
it is now called review 1, review 2 and consideration for dismissal instead of stage 1,2,3
Royal Mail manager Ron Moody reviewing the situation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96rC4X_KWl4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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HarrymonkFish
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Re: 2nd stage warning

Post by HarrymonkFish »

Advice needed! I was of sick earlier in the year due to a shoulder problem I had a couple of absences which triggered a stage 1, since then I've had surgery to correct the problem and had 49 days off! I was put under pressure by the manager after 3 weeks asking when I was coming back? Even though he knew it was a 6-8 week recovery!!! I spoke to atos and my surgeon and they both agreed I shouldn't return to work untill my sick note runs out. I had my stage 2 interview with my rep and all the manager kept saying was I was off to long and should have returned to work earlier than my sick note? Me and the rep were under the impression both absences would be linked and I would be reissued a stage 1 but I received a stage 2 today with no appeal? I'm really fuming and dont kmow what to do?
whisperstar24
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Re: 2nd stage warning

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HarrymonkFish
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Re: 2nd stage warning

Post by HarrymonkFish »

Ok thanks for that will speak to a rep in the morning
coxie
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Re: 2nd stage warning

Post by coxie »

shepherdess wrote:you go back to 1st you only need to go 6 months now
Surely he is not on any stage now if he has not been sick, you only revert back down to a stage one if you have had one absence over 4 days.
H G Eales
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Re: 2nd stage warning

Post by H G Eales »

Hi, I wAs issued with stage 2 inFebruary. As of today I have been sick for 8 consecutive days including Sunday. Can anyone tell me how this affects me according to the new agreement. Would I have gone back to stage 1 prior to this sickness absence?
bogstandard
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Re: 2nd stage warning

Post by bogstandard »

if you meet the criteria (1 absence of 3 days or fewer) in the following 6 months, you are removed from the procedure entirely.
A second absence triggers the next stage.
Confused... You won't be, after the next episode of. SOAP