Week 2 and still no change

[SammyR20]

Well week 2 in the Job and still feeling like a spare part, have been told today that
I will not be getting my own round as I am just there to cover.
Went in early to sort out my frame as the the man training me has his own way of doing it
And says in not fast enough and no point going in early as I won't be getting paid for it.
Went out on the walk took an hour and a half the both of us, I had over half the round
And he says at this rate it will take you 6 hours to complete in your own, call me stupid
But no idea how he figured that out, by my calculation double up the round makes 3 hours
Not 6, he said the two streets I had done take him 15 mins and they took me 20mins so I need
To hurry up.
Still no ID badge, no Hi/vis, have been told there will never be over time and I will just have to
Deal with Christmas as part if my normal round.
I really need this job and really trying my best but seems that will never be good enough for the
Training postie that has done 20 years service.
Royal Mail need to set there procedures in place for training etc,I am totally shocked at the
whole situation.
Will keep ploughing on and hope its gets better in the coming weeks.

[Cut Off King]

It just goes downhill from here on

Only joking, you'll be fine and find you own pace you'll get faster and more confident as the weeks roll on...

[krussel]

Welcome.

The person they have paired you with is a knob.

To complete 2 roads and only take 5 mins longer than a 20 year man is really GOOD going. I have taken out newbies and they have taken twice as long as me so your actually doing well.

It takes a few weeks to bed in and feel your not just trying to keep your head above water. You are starting at the busiest time of the year so if you get through the next 6 weeks things WILL get easier.

You will work your time at xmas or get paid extra. Everyone does.

[arthur was right]

The postie your with sounds a complete cu*nt. Dont let his unprofessional manner/behavior get to you.
Keep plodding on and if you need more help/training .....ask!!
If its any consolation its the same for all new starters and as with everything else you will speed up ...... good luck comrade!!!!

[baleout]

Don't worry about him. All offices have their fair set of Assholes. Looks like they gave you a "good un" lol. Just go with the flow !

BTW. You are lucky to get any training at all

[cweg]

I agree that RM training is an absolute joke.

I still haven't been shown how to use the PDA or the trolleys, had to figure them out on my own. Nobody has even mentioned which van checks I should be doing in the morning and I don't have a clue how to go about weighing bags either.

Also, when being shown P&L driving duties for the first time they will pair you with a passenger who has most likely never touched the driver loops. Blind leading the blind!

At the induction they told me that I would have my own coach for the first few weeks, who would keep track of my progress and make sure I'm well trained in every aspect of the job. Utter tosh. I got paired with one guy for the first couple of days (who was a part-timer who had been in the job a few months, not a trainer or a coach) then got sent out on my own.

It does get better after a few weeks once you settle in. Those first few are really frustrating because it seems like a total farce!

I'm surprised you don't have overtime across the board for Christmas, but you will (should) get paid for any OT you put in the docket for staying out to complete.

[bustedflush]

I joined a year ago and had a training officer. He was with me 3 days then I was on my own. Seniority applies, you may take 10 YEARS to get your 'own' round unless you apply for one as it comes up that no-one else wants. Also rounds have times (39/32.5/30 hours) allocated to them so you may find a round being vacant is not appropriate for your hours. I have 'training sheets' that were filled in ONCE and never touched again. Training is ad hoc and you learn by mistakes. You trainer sounds like an over-critical bell end. You will stay on the same round for 3-4 weeks then you will be a reserve, covering 5 or 6 when their regular is off. This is when the stress starts - starting/learning a new round each Monday is almost like starting a new job each week. You have to learn a new frame, you worry you may be slowing the regular down as a result, you may get lost and frustrated when walking if the walk isn't as obvious as some are, i.e. you need to cross a road, go down an alley etc.
Your kit will come, usually there are spare high-vis vests in the managers office, ask for one as they are compulsory and an essential part of H&S. If you need to finish on-time then tell the line manager before you go out, as it's your right to do so if you need to get to the school etc. If you choose go over, write the time to the nearest 5 minutes on the OT/docket sheet each day in the office. I feel for you as I found the training elementary at best, and it's intimidating, more so than most jobs you'll start. You are (as the rest stated above) starting at a very busy time of year. Get through it and take the OT if you want it. At induction I was told 1/9 of recruits are still on delivery after 6 months. I can see why, and so can you. Stick at it, it does get easier and you'll be surprised at how quick you'll fit in if you try hard at the job. You'll soon be taking the p!ss out of your 'trainer' in the DO banter......

[Shaman Mao]

Sammy, sounds like you've been paired with a complete d*ck with a superiority complex. Ignore him and go at your own pace. Down our way you spend a day in the office with the coach, then another 3 or 4 days out on the streets (also with the coach). Only then are you let loose on the public!

[spiderj]

Ignore the twazzock he's obviously suffering from wee man syndrome
Grin and bear it
First few months can be tough and cosmic
Before you know it you'll be cool
or mental lol

[star2010]

Mate I feel your pain. The training is a shambles. Tell the twat your paired with to chill the f**k out. I'm only nearly a month in myself and can relate , but to be fair my office is ok and most don't mind pointing me in the right direction if I need help. You will be alright , I was well nervous and dreaded goin in in the morning , but I'm finding my feet now. Keep your chin up. He has been doing it 20 years and he can only do it 5 mins quicker than you , sounds like he is the 1 that needs to speed up , cheeky f****r in hate bully's.

[numberone]

Sounds like you are doing well to me. I've trained up 4 people in last 15 months on quite a large round. They are all still working here and doing well on other rounds. Stick with it, it does get easier. This time of year though is very busy but I'm sure you be fine.

[Tanker007]

Well week 2 in the Job and still feeling like a spare part, have been told today that
I will not be getting my own round as I am just there to cover.
Went in early to sort out my frame as the the man training me has his own way of doing it
And says in not fast enough and no point going in early as I won't be getting paid for it.
Went out on the walk took an hour and a half the both of us, I had over half the round
And he says at this rate it will take you 6 hours to complete in your own, call me stupid
But no idea how he figured that out, by my calculation double up the round makes 3 hours
Not 6, he said the two streets I had done take him 15 mins and they took me 20mins so I need
To hurry up.
Still no ID badge, no Hi/vis, have been told there will never be over time and I will just have to
Deal with Christmas as part if my normal round.
I really need this job and really trying my best but seems that will never be good enough for the
Training postie that has done 20 years service.
Royal Mail need to set there procedures in place for training etc,I am totally shocked at the
whole situation.
Will keep ploughing on and hope its gets better in the coming weeks.

Sammy!.. Welcome to Royal Mail m8
DO NOT listen to this moron trainer! Can't believe he's a trainer no wonder RM staff churn is so high.
You have been here 2 weeks , you can't possibly be expected to get up to speed in such a short time.
As it has been said before .. Find your own speed and gradually increase it at your comfort level .. Your feet will hurt, your fitness will improve and you will get to enjoy some aspects of the job.
DON'T come in early , all that happens is that they will see you as a soft target and will take p..s.
Work to your time and you will do fine m8
All the best fella..

[Dozen]

The first few months in this job are an absolute joke

Obviously experiences vary from office to office, but I felt completely let down by Royal Mail at the beginning. The manager thinks you're too slow and uses that not to pay over time, the union rep is completely elusive and invisible, the coach only gives a toss about himself, the van drivers take packets from everyone except from you, the walks you are put on are all impossible, nobody talks to you or even introduces themselves so you end up working in an office full of complete strangers. Quite frankly it can be lonely, depressing and stressful. You do get there in the end though, but only by the sweat off your own back and not with the help from anyone else. I've only learnt this myself still being relatively new (just under a year), and i'd like to think that in the future when i'm on the other side of the glass and see new starters coming in, i'll show them a bit more respect and try to give them a better introduction to the job than what I experienced.

[bustedflush]

The first few months in this job are an absolute joke

Obviously experiences vary from office to office, but I felt completely let down by Royal Mail at the beginning. The manager thinks you're too slow and uses that not to pay over time, the union rep is completely elusive and invisible, the coach only gives a toss about himself, the van drivers take packets from everyone except from you, the walks you are put on are all impossible, nobody talks to you or even introduces themselves so you end up working in an office full of complete strangers. Quite frankly it can be lonely, depressing and stressful. You do get there in the end though, but only by the sweat off your own back and not with the help from anyone else. I've only learnt this myself still being relatively new (just under a year), and i'd like to think that in the future when i'm on the other side of the glass and see new starters coming in, i'll show them a bit more respect and try to give them a better introduction to the job than what I experienced.

I think the main reason is the 'every man for himself' attitudes which prevail in the office. Yes, I'm guilty of it too, wanting to get done quick and go early but I can still remember freshly how I felt 9 months back. Once you've worked with a several different posties you'll have a group to nod to, pass the chat with etc. The you'll feel like you 'belong' more and can feel less restricted in what you say and opinions you want to voice. I found that by going quick I got a decent reputation and a bit of respect and soon the suspicion of the 'newb' that I felt dissipated.

[hampshireman]

The first few months in this job are an absolute joke

Obviously experiences vary from office to office, but I felt completely let down by Royal Mail at the beginning. The manager thinks you're too slow and uses that not to pay over time, the union rep is completely elusive and invisible, the coach only gives a toss about himself, the van drivers take packets from everyone except from you, the walks you are put on are all impossible, nobody talks to you or even introduces themselves so you end up working in an office full of complete strangers. Quite frankly it can be lonely, depressing and stressful. You do get there in the end though, but only by the sweat off your own back and not with the help from anyone else. I've only learnt this myself still being relatively new (just under a year), and i'd like to think that in the future when i'm on the other side of the glass and see new starters coming in, i'll show them a bit more respect and try to give them a better introduction to the job than what I experienced.

I think the main reason is the 'every man for himself' attitudes which prevail in the office. Yes, I'm guilty of it too, wanting to get done quick and go early but I can still remember freshly how I felt 9 months back. Once you've worked with a several different posties you'll have a group to nod to, pass the chat with etc. The you'll feel like you 'belong' more and can feel less restricted in what you say and opinions you want to voice. I found that by going quick I got a decent reputation and a bit of respect and soon the suspicion of the 'newb' that I felt dissipated.

Blimey ; did not realise that 'going quick' enhanced your reputation