In a nutshell after 12 years service I was pushed in to taking IHR 3 years ago due to ongoing surgery. I have now got a clean bill of health and fully fit to return to work as I believe you can after 2 years
I have been security vetted by HR and have the green light to re-apply. So here goes! A job has come up in my office and I applied online like everyone else has to and to my amazement I was unsuccessful
Any advice would be great, I wasn't sure whether to go in and have a word with the newly posted DOM or not??
Seems a bit of a shame, I don't know about rules and regulations, but maybe you could go and have a chat and ask for some feedback to see what has gone against you. It couldn't do any harm could it?
'I tolerate this century but I don't enjoy it'
The Doctor in 'An Unearthly Child'
A species set on endless growth is.... UNSUSTAINABLE
When u apply online, it is hr that short list candidates, therefor the dom would have nothing to do with until he sees the short list, ur first port of call would be to contact hr, I'm sure u can get contact number from this forum and proceed accordingly, good luck
Himaggen wrote:Why would you think that you may need to speak to the new DOM?, are you hoping or expecting to be treated any differently because of your past?
Just to see what feedback I could get, I was kind of hoping to get my old job back. The job advertised was to start in six weeks after further training etc, I can start start straight away so surely benificial for the xmas rush
I think you will find most DOM's would take a young fit new starter, they can manipulate, over someone with a history of sickness
and no experience of P&L or current workloads all day long.
Sorry to tell it as it currently is.
chrisj wrote:I think it is a bit cheeky to expect to get your old job back - do you mean your old round or shift? Either way, you should really go to the back of the class and take what you get - you are lucky to even have been employed in the same office
You need to reread the original post.
He wasn't successful in his application,
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
Where an individual has been retired for Ill Health they will have opportunity to request re-employment within Royal Mail Group when/if they are again able to carry out their previous duty or another duty for the employer and there will be no artificial barriers to their re-employment.
Royal Mail Group is an equal opportunities employer and will consider all applications on their merit, including those from previous employees. Experience gained from working within the Group in the past is an advantage in any recruitment process, and this applies equally to individuals that have been retired on ill health grounds. In such cases however, it would be essential for an individual to demonstrate that they have recovered sufficiently to be able to perform a normal range of duties.
Re-employment will be subject to a referral to the OHS to confirm the individual has recovered from the ill health that supported the recommendation for retirement. The individual will be required to provide supporting evidence that they have recovered from their ill health and may be required to have a medical examination.
Their previous overall attendance record will be considered in the normal way but they will not be disadvantaged due to absences related to their ill health retirement.
It is also important to recognise that:
• It will be unlikely individuals will be able to return to their original former job.
• It will be dependent on an appropriate vacancy being available.
• They may be expected to be flexible in terms of job location and date of return.
• Where retraining is required it will be given.
• On their return they will be eligible to join the appropriate Pension Scheme for new employees.
Now we have had anecdotal evidence on here that HR are blocking ex-IHR cases so what I would suggest is that you contact them and see if there is an "artificial barrier" to your re-employment.
chrisj wrote:I think it is a bit cheeky to expect to get your old job back - do you mean your old round or shift? Either way, you should really go to the back of the class and take what you get - you are lucky to even have been employed in the same office
You need to reread the original post.
He wasn't successful in his application,
You are absolutely right. I think it was the immediate reply about preferential treatment and his second post that threw me .... re: I was hoping to have my old job back...
I am not entirely surprised he was not successful in getting a job especially in the same office... Employment is clearly online these days...
He should have applied for a Xmas casual job anywhere within RM; so that he can boost his CV and show that he is ready to come back to work. In addition, he can always benefit from inside knowledge.
chrisj wrote:
I am not entirely surprised he was not successful in getting a job
Why not?
An experienced postie who will need minimal retraining - (it's a bit like Flamini going back to Arsenal.)
The only sticking point would appear to be his sick record - and that shouldn't be a sticking point because they are not supposed to put artificial barriers in the way of his reemployment.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
But if you read the conditions highlighted in TBT post, then you can see that there is some sort of hurdles, if not barrier. involved.
I don't think the analogy of Flamini is quite right, it is probably more like Edu (the Croatian) or Viera coming back to Arsenal. Perhaps a better analogy will be Fabrice Muamba going back to Bolton or even to Arsenal (Not).
Unless this postie is more like a Ramsey or Diaby (and even he was not the same).
fishtank wrote:Now we have had anecdotal evidence on here that HR are blocking ex-IHR cases so what I would suggest is that you contact them and see if there is an "artificial barrier" to your re-employment.
I wouldn't jump to that conclusion from what has been posted:
forrestgump wrote:I have been security vetted by HR and have the green light to re-apply.
That doesn't make mention of any of the following:
fishtank wrote:
11. RE-EMPLOYMENT FOLLOWING ILL HEALTH RETIREMENT <snip />In such cases however, it would be essential for an individual to demonstrate that they have recovered sufficiently to be able to perform a normal range of duties.
Re-employment will be subject to a referral to the OHS to confirm the individual has recovered from the ill health that supported the recommendation for retirement. The individual will be required to provide supporting evidence that they have recovered from their ill health and may be required to have a medical examination. <snip />
