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Union agrees yet another extension

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Himaggen
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Union agrees yet another extension

Post by Himaggen »

http://www.cwu.org/news/archive/royal-mail-dispute-current-position-and-next-steps.html
The union's postal executive met yesterday afternoon (Monday) to discuss the latest position on national talks with Royal Mail and next steps.

In light of significant progress made the postal executive agreed to the company's offer to extend the validity of the industrial action ballot until the final permissible date, 3rd December 2013 - the last date that notice of strike action can be served.


"We understand that CWU members will be concerned about the length of time that it is taking to finalise an agreement. However, turning elements of a collective agreement into what will become a legally enforceable contract is a complicated process," explained CWU deputy general secretary Dave Ward.

"We are confident that negotiations will conclude during this extended period and that a final agreement will soon be placed before the executive council for endorsement in the very near future," he said.

The postal executive is due to meet again on Monday 2nd December 2013.

Below is a summary of the current position of talks:

Legal Protections

An extensive legally binding undertaking from the employer on all the issues put forward by the union has now been secured. These protections will extend beyond 3 years. There are a couple of final points to resolve but it is not anticipated that these will prevent an agreement being reached.

Pay

An improved closed offer from the company is currently under consideration.

Pensions

Negotiations have been concluded on pensions and legally binding commitments on the future of the RMPP alongside additional improvements to the Defined Contribution Scheme which have been secured. The company has accepted that members will be balloted on a pensions agreement separately.

Industrial stability, new culture and agenda for growth

A section on industrial stability which strengthens the existing IR Framework with new mediation procedures is in the process of being finalised. The agreement will not include any commitment to binding arbitration or a no strike deal. The new approach will also offer CWU unprecedented access to business structures and provide the opportunity for real influence on the future direction of the company.

Delivery workload issues

Whilst some progress has been made there are still difficult areas to resolve and a fresh approach is being considered.

Future parcels and letter strategy

Drafts have been exchanged and it looks likely that there will be no issues preventing an agreement on future strategy.

Company charter

The company has accepted the principle of a charter setting out the values on how Royal Mail Group will operate in the future. Drafts have been exchanged and it does not look like there will be any issues preventing a final agreement being reached.

Ongoing programme of work

There are currently no issues in this section which will prevent us from reaching agreement.
sharky0308
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Re: Union agrees yet another extension

Post by sharky0308 »

FALL ON YOUR SWORDS NOW! You are all a complete waste of space, you are taking us all for mugs, what the hell have you been doing all this time......JOKE!
thehappyones
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FINAL FINAL FINAL

Post by thehappyones »

Looks like we got a deal then,more or less
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.
Kh59
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Post by Kh59 »

Bunch of Muppets what a joke !!!
74tower
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Re: Union agrees yet another extension

Post by 74tower »

Terms and conditions beyond 3 years............it's not going to be anywhere near "10 years" , probably a review after 3 years which I expect will result in more IA ballots that will drag on and on like this one............slowly but surely the CWU is becoming a spent force in terms of fighting for its members ,it failed to protect mail centre workers without so much as a fight ,it will be only a matter of time for a lot more to go without a fight.
musicmaniax
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Re: Union agrees yet another extension

Post by musicmaniax »

Get these muppets out now.

A vote of no confidence is needed ASAP.

The company must be laughing their heads off now.

Any credibility has been lost.
Post1977
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Re: Union agrees yet another extension

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:arrrghhh
hubbahubba
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Re: Union agrees yet another extension

Post by hubbahubba »

You don't even know any real details yet but still keep whining about being sold out.
Wait until you have the agreement in front of you before hanging the union.
If it is a crap deal then fill yer boots,but until then wait for the facts...

The only thing more annoying than the amount of time this deal is taking is the amount of moaning about it.
:neutral:
same as it ever was...
BernardBresslaw
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Re: Union agrees yet another extension

Post by BernardBresslaw »

A lot of the points sound unresolved to me so how they can say they are close to an agreement is beyond me. An embarrassment.
musicmaniax
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Re: Union agrees yet another extension

Post by musicmaniax »

They have had more than enough time to get this sorted and we are entitled to air our greavences.

Every day passes with no information and the majority of people here are fed up being kept in the dark.

At the end of the day this is just a job, family comes first especially this time of year and if my partner asks me not to strike it that is the outcome I will respect her wishes and not strike.

This job and the management are not top of my priorities and never will be.

I work to live not live to work. There are other jobs around if you look hard enough and although I have worked here for 10 years now I wouldn't miss this company at all.

The morale alone is enough to make people want to leave.
daveyeff
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Re: Union agrees yet another extension

Post by daveyeff »

its another 2010 in the making. they said, ''nothing is agreed until everything is agreed''. so are they going to get a deal on workloads in a week.,,,,,or another 6 extensions. fcuk em. vote them out.
mandelsons_toenail
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Re: Union agrees yet another extension

Post by mandelsons_toenail »

Sat here taking my break choking on my sandwiches.

Another sell out.

11th strike 1
The following week another then Xmas over
Rm are laughing
Resign now

Shambles
daveyeff
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Post by daveyeff »

BernardBresslaw wrote:A lot of the points sound unresolved to me so how they can say they are close to an agreement is beyond me. An embarrassment.
aye exactly, they say ''looks like there wont be any issues'',,,,,,''we cant foresee any issues''. ,,,,,,until after xmas when they materialise. laughing stock.,,,,CHICKEN laughing stock. :evil/mad
oldrope
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Re: Union agrees yet another extension

Post by oldrope »

It will all come good we will just have to wait , I'm sure the best iss being done for members. The only thing I would like is to be kept up to date,eg pay sorted, t&c sorted ect they don't have to tell us what just that it is sorted.
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Re: Union agrees yet another extension

Post by Silly Sarah »

mandelsons_toenail wrote:Sat here taking my break choking on my sandwiches.

Another sell out.

11th strike 1
The following week another then Xmas over
Rm are laughing
Resign now

Shambles
How do you know its "another sell out" when we don't know the content of the agreement? The union are damned whatever they do. At least lets see what the outcome is before the recriminations start.
What have I done to deserve this?