Drink driving question....

[makingsounds]

A colleague was stopped over the weekend by plod, breath tested and was over the limit. He will be appearing in court in a week or two. Where does he stand workwise, he's a 30 year man, a driver in a CDV pairing. I'm sure he'll have to declare it to the business and will be suspended from driving but is there a chance he could lose his job?

[doorstepped]

I would think it is possible, But it's probably more down to his DIM if he wants to keep him on.

[clashcityrocker]

It would depend on how many non-driving duties there were in the office and if any are vacant.
There may be vacancies in other offices?

[fishtank]

Dealing with drivers who invalidate themselves from driving

This is not a new problem for Royal Mail, but the increased numbers of vans in your operation may make the problems associated with this more acute. Guidance on how to deal with this situation will vary, depending on the nature of how the licence has been invalidated.

However, as a principle, all reasonable steps will be made to find alternative duties within the parent unit for people who can no longer perform a driving duty.

Licences may be invalidated for many reasons – common situations include:

1. Alcohol & Drugs
2. Medical condition
3. Driving offences, e.g. civil speeding points.

Cases can be complicated, and there will be situations which occur that are not covered in the list above.

For guidance on instances where people invalidate themselves from driving duties, you should familiarise yourself with the relevant documents below:


Royal Mail Conduct Code, NCI procedures

Alcohol & Drugs Policy

Ill Health Retirement - Line Managers guide for consideration
ATOS Healthcare

[UnhappyGremlin]

A former DOM of mine did warn us that anyone who loses their licence, for whatever reason, he thought should be sacked. But there are processes in reation to this.

I currently work with someone who lost their licence for drink driving, but kept their job. I think it will just come down to the boss who deals with it.

[Stormproof]

We've a few banned due to DD, they've all kept their jobs and had to pick up walking duties or do nights when regular staff off.

[Patrick301]

A former DOM of mine did warn us that anyone who loses their licence, for whatever reason, he thought should be sacked. But there are processes in reation to this.

I currently work with someone who lost their licence for drink driving, but kept their job. I think it will just come down to the boss who deals with it.

in other words
its a case of if your face fits
or if you crept up the gaffars rrrrrrs enough in the past

[pumpkin2]

So Im guessing if you say you need your Driving Licence for your job the courts don't give a s**t?

[mickeymacca]

So Im guessing if you say you need your Driving Licence for your job the courts don't give a s**t?

well why should they? don't drink and drive.

[IcanthelpthewayIam]

So Im guessing if you say you need your Driving Licence for your job the courts don't give a s**t?

pretty much yes, drink driving is pretty much at least a year automatic ban nowadays, best not to risk it

[chrisj]

You might even be lucky that the DOM will swap you on easy driving duty for an even easier walk. The only downside being on a P&L but no punishment whatsoever and your duty will be held for you for 2 years... Only if your face fits, mind

[Lounge Lizard]

So Im guessing if you say you need your Driving Licence for your job the courts don't give a s**t?

well why should they? don't drink and drive.

and don't exceed the speed limit.

[R@YAL F@IL]

Perhaps they will give him a duty were he is chauffeured about like Moya is, trouble with that is he will have to work a 1 day a week, perhaps have to work a weekend every time a strike is on the cards and deal with bonuses that are so much he might not be able to count that high

[DB1100]

A former DOM of mine did warn us that anyone who loses their licence, for whatever reason, he thought should be sacked. But there are processes in reation to this.

I currently work with someone who lost their licence for drink driving, but kept their job. I think it will just come down to the boss who deals with it.

You can lose your licence for many reasons beyond your control,epilepsy for one ,so would your exdom sack somebody for that?

[UnhappyGremlin]

A former DOM of mine did warn us that anyone who loses their licence, for whatever reason, he thought should be sacked. But there are processes in reation to this.

I currently work with someone who lost their licence for drink driving, but kept their job. I think it will just come down to the boss who deals with it.

You can lose your licence for many reasons beyond your control,epilepsy for one ,so would your exdom sack somebody for that?

More than likely, yes. They'd certainly have tried. If sacking wasn't an option, then they'd have gone for IHR.
Obviously, if it came under a disability, then it would have been harder for them.
But it wouldn't have stopped the attempt.