ANNOUNCEMENT : ALL OF ROYAL MAIL'S EMPLOYMENT POLICIES (AGREEMENTS) AT A GLANCE (Updated 2021)... HERE

ANNOUNCEMENT : PLEASE BE AWARE WE ARE NOT ON FACEBOOK AT ALL!

Meltdown

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.
mailman71
Posts: 500
Joined: 10 Jun 2007, 08:03

Meltdown

Post by mailman71 »

In our office there I s going to be a meltdown before Xmas,there is not enough staff since the revision.
The tracked and parcels are going through the roof and don't get me started on d2d's,the staff are all hacked off with what's going on and even the less militant guys are ready for any industrial action is this happening all over.
worktotime
Posts: 2866
Joined: 14 May 2010, 20:47
Gender: Male

Re: Meltdown

Post by worktotime »

same in our office still lapsing , going over arguments everyday , workloads unreal ,b&h is rife , weve all had enough now nearly 4 years down the line with the wonderful p&l , we should have gone out on strike on the 4th , don't think I can take much more of this. cwu sort this mess out for f**k sake.
Godric
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 855
Joined: 17 Oct 2009, 12:08
Gender: Male
Location: The Kingdom of Alba

Re: Meltdown

Post by Godric »

mailman71 wrote:In our office there I s going to be a meltdown before Xmas,there is not enough staff since the revision.
The tracked and parcels are going through the roof and don't get me started on d2d's,the staff are all hacked off with what's going on and even the less militant guys are ready for any industrial action is this happening all over.

Royal Mail cannot force you to do overtime ...... overtime is not compulsory ..... trust me when I say this .... I will be cutting off as Royal Mail can stick their 20p above the normal rate for O/t and below the normal rate after 10 hours .... I wasn't born yesterday I would rather finish on my time than bust my balls in the dark for a few crumbs more
"Vi har haft århundraden av kärlek och tillit till varandra."
demon
Posts: 732
Joined: 08 Jul 2009, 14:19
Gender: Female

Re: Meltdown

Post by demon »

same in our no staff and far to much work
OnAFlyer
Posts: 1938
Joined: 16 Aug 2009, 14:24
Gender: Male

Re: Meltdown

Post by OnAFlyer »

Godric wrote:
mailman71 wrote:In our office there I s going to be a meltdown before Xmas,there is not enough staff since the revision.
The tracked and parcels are going through the roof and don't get me started on d2d's,the staff are all hacked off with what's going on and even the less militant guys are ready for any industrial action is this happening all over.

Royal Mail cannot force you to do overtime ...... overtime is not compulsory ..... trust me when I say this .... I will be cutting off as Royal Mail can stick their 20p above the normal rate for O/t and below the normal rate after 10 hours .... I wasn't born yesterday I would rather finish on my time than bust my balls in the dark for a few crumbs more

Exactly this. Start on time, work at a good pace and finish on time. If you finish under one day then be a little flexible another if you can. (Not compulsory!). Be firm but fair, if managers don't like it there isn't a thing they can do.
adamanti
Posts: 148
Joined: 13 Jan 2012, 14:45
Gender: Male

Re: Meltdown

Post by adamanti »

OnAFlyer wrote:
Godric wrote:
mailman71 wrote:In our office there I s going to be a meltdown before Xmas,there is not enough staff since the revision.
The tracked and parcels are going through the roof and don't get me started on d2d's,the staff are all hacked off with what's going on and even the less militant guys are ready for any industrial action is this happening all over.

Royal Mail cannot force you to do overtime ...... overtime is not compulsory ..... trust me when I say this .... I will be cutting off as Royal Mail can stick their 20p above the normal rate for O/t and below the normal rate after 10 hours .... I wasn't born yesterday I would rather finish on my time than bust my balls in the dark for a few crumbs more

Exactly this. Start on time, work at a good pace and finish on time. If you finish under one day then be a little flexible another if you can. (Not compulsory!). Be firm but fair, if managers don't like it there isn't a thing they can do.
:Applause
k979aaa
Posts: 12578
Joined: 03 Sep 2007, 19:14
Gender: Male
Location: THE NORTH

Re: Meltdown

Post by k979aaa »

Really we don't need to strike but here is the problem some come in early work over their time don't take their breaks nor do their D2D and door step! WHY NOT JUST DO YOUR JOB PROPERLY. But if we did this after a strike even just one day what would your office be like?
chrisj
Posts: 1883
Joined: 21 Dec 2010, 16:24
Gender: Male

Re: Meltdown

Post by chrisj »

I foresee wildcat strikes if the Agreement does not come up trumps both in words and practice for delivery. I am ready for that particular fight! :oops: :nervous
chrisj
Posts: 1883
Joined: 21 Dec 2010, 16:24
Gender: Male

Re: Meltdown

Post by chrisj »

k979aaa wrote:Really we don't need to strike but here is the problem some come in early work over their time don't take their breaks nor do their D2D and door step! WHY NOT JUST DO YOUR JOB PROPERLY. But if we did this after a strike even just one day what would your office be like?
This is delivery we are talking about. Some people in my office will rather treat someone worse than a 'scab' if one dare mentions doing the job properly and coming in on their time. Some will just not have it. Some many stupid reasons and excuses: I have kids for example, but your children do not finish school until after 3pm but you want to get home for 12.30/1pm
k979aaa
Posts: 12578
Joined: 03 Sep 2007, 19:14
Gender: Male
Location: THE NORTH

Re: Meltdown

Post by k979aaa »

chrisj wrote:
k979aaa wrote:Really we don't need to strike but here is the problem some come in early work over their time don't take their breaks nor do their D2D and door step! WHY NOT JUST DO YOUR JOB PROPERLY. But if we did this after a strike even just one day what would your office be like?
This is delivery we are talking about. Some people in my office will rather treat someone worse than a 'scab' if one dare mentions doing the job properly and coming in on their time. Some will just not have it. Some many stupid reasons and excuses: I have kids for example, but your children do not finish school until after 3pm but you want to get home for 12.30/1pm
YES I for my sins is in delivery too well you need to do as I do and good luck I know it is hard work but all the best!.
gand
Posts: 253
Joined: 10 Aug 2011, 17:36
Gender: Male

Re: Meltdown

Post by gand »

adamanti wrote:
OnAFlyer wrote:
Godric wrote:
mailman71 wrote:In our office there I s going to be a meltdown before Xmas,there is not enough staff since the revision.
The tracked and parcels are going through the roof and don't get me started on d2d's,the staff are all hacked off with what's going on and even the less militant guys are ready for any industrial action is this happening all over.

Royal Mail cannot force you to do overtime ...... overtime is not compulsory ..... trust me when I say this .... I will be cutting off as Royal Mail can stick their 20p above the normal rate for O/t and below the normal rate after 10 hours .... I wasn't born yesterday I would rather finish on my time than bust my balls in the dark for a few crumbs more

Exactly this. Start on time, work at a good pace and finish on time. If you finish under one day then be a little flexible another if you can. (Not compulsory!). Be firm but fair, if managers don't like it there isn't a thing they can do.
:Applause
Thats all very well if your not in an office were more the 99% of them come in early and don't take there break or use there trolleys leaving the rest to be made to look like there under performing
k979aaa
Posts: 12578
Joined: 03 Sep 2007, 19:14
Gender: Male
Location: THE NORTH

Re: Meltdown

Post by k979aaa »

gand wrote:
adamanti wrote:
OnAFlyer wrote:
Godric wrote:
mailman71 wrote:In our office there I s going to be a meltdown before Xmas,there is not enough staff since the revision.
The tracked and parcels are going through the roof and don't get me started on d2d's,the staff are all hacked off with what's going on and even the less militant guys are ready for any industrial action is this happening all over.

Royal Mail cannot force you to do overtime ...... overtime is not compulsory ..... trust me when I say this .... I will be cutting off as Royal Mail can stick their 20p above the normal rate for O/t and below the normal rate after 10 hours .... I wasn't born yesterday I would rather finish on my time than bust my balls in the dark for a few crumbs more

Exactly this. Start on time, work at a good pace and finish on time. If you finish under one day then be a little flexible another if you can. (Not compulsory!). Be firm but fair, if managers don't like it there isn't a thing they can do.
:Applause
Thats all very well if your not in an office were more the 99% of them come in early and don't take there break or use there trolleys leaving the rest to be made to look like there under performing
It is hard but can be done and must be done I do it get called all names for it don't care I go home on time everyday no matter what!
sussexlad
Posts: 161
Joined: 28 Oct 2013, 21:52
Gender: Male

Re: Meltdown

Post by sussexlad »

Godric wrote:
mailman71 wrote:In our office there I s going to be a meltdown before Xmas,there is not enough staff since the revision.
The tracked and parcels are going through the roof and don't get me started on d2d's,the staff are all hacked off with what's going on and even the less militant guys are ready for any industrial action is this happening all over.

Royal Mail cannot force you to do overtime ...... overtime is not compulsory ..... trust me when I say this .... I will be cutting off as Royal Mail can stick their 20p above the normal rate for O/t and below the normal rate after 10 hours .... I wasn't born yesterday I would rather finish on my time than bust my balls in the dark for a few crumbs more
Does anyone have the hourly pay rates to hand? Normal hourly rate, first 10 hours o/t hourly rate, over 10 hours o/t rate, S.A rate and sunday rate?
k979aaa
Posts: 12578
Joined: 03 Sep 2007, 19:14
Gender: Male
Location: THE NORTH

Re: Meltdown

Post by k979aaa »

sussexlad wrote:
Godric wrote:
mailman71 wrote:In our office there I s going to be a meltdown before Xmas,there is not enough staff since the revision.
The tracked and parcels are going through the roof and don't get me started on d2d's,the staff are all hacked off with what's going on and even the less militant guys are ready for any industrial action is this happening all over.

Royal Mail cannot force you to do overtime ...... overtime is not compulsory ..... trust me when I say this .... I will be cutting off as Royal Mail can stick their 20p above the normal rate for O/t and below the normal rate after 10 hours .... I wasn't born yesterday I would rather finish on my time than bust my balls in the dark for a few crumbs more
Does anyone have the hourly pay rates to hand? Normal hourly rate, first 10 hours o/t hourly rate, over 10 hours o/t rate, S.A rate and sunday rate?
Is that before or after the DOM'S adjustments to your hours, minuets, seconds.
OnAFlyer
Posts: 1938
Joined: 16 Aug 2009, 14:24
Gender: Male

Re: Meltdown

Post by OnAFlyer »

gand wrote:
adamanti wrote:
OnAFlyer wrote:
Godric wrote:
mailman71 wrote:In our office there I s going to be a meltdown before Xmas,there is not enough staff since the revision.
The tracked and parcels are going through the roof and don't get me started on d2d's,the staff are all hacked off with what's going on and even the less militant guys are ready for any industrial action is this happening all over.

Royal Mail cannot force you to do overtime ...... overtime is not compulsory ..... trust me when I say this .... I will be cutting off as Royal Mail can stick their 20p above the normal rate for O/t and below the normal rate after 10 hours .... I wasn't born yesterday I would rather finish on my time than bust my balls in the dark for a few crumbs more

Exactly this. Start on time, work at a good pace and finish on time. If you finish under one day then be a little flexible another if you can. (Not compulsory!). Be firm but fair, if managers don't like it there isn't a thing they can do.
:Applause
Thats all very well if your not in an office were more the 99% of them come in early and don't take there break or use there trolleys leaving the rest to be made to look like there under performing
I am in an office like that. This morning we'd been off IPS 15 minutes and half the office was waiting for mail because they'd thrown all their sequencing in before start time. My and my partner were one of the last pairs out of the office, despite the fact we'd fully prepped, tied up and loaded our walks in 90 minutes on a shite day. (Plus had a 20 min break, which virtually everyone takes as the manager enforces it under H&S rules and quite rightly).

No manager can say that's underperforming, in actual fact our manager knows we're quick but he also knows we don't start early and don't work for free so when we cut off he doesn't question it.