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col456xyz
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Post by col456xyz »

I do not know how talks are really going, conflicting rumours.
But I am worried for the forth coming strikes.i have supported my union on industrial action over the last 28 years and will continue to do so.
I work in one of biggest delivery offices in the country, over 300 staff and the amount of staff who are to defy the union call and attend on monday is alarming.they have lost faith after the 2009 deal, the older ones with only a few years to do are happy with the last deal offer, the younger ones dont see the long term effect its only the hard core in the middle who see what is at stake.
If this is typical across the country we are in trouble.
If this strike is not well supported rm will pounch on this and give us very little.
Lets hope the strategy is right and we prevail. Support your union for our future.
Dorset Plodder
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Re: worried

Post by Dorset Plodder »

You can only be true to yourself Col. Hopefully the message about the £300 bribe NOT Existing may help to change the attitude of some of our more "Greedy" colleagues. But apart from maybe talking to a few workmates, and hopefully persuading them of the necessity of making a Firm Stand, there's not a lot you can personally do about it. :arrrghhh
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Glenno
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Re: worried

Post by Glenno »

col456xyz wrote:I do not know how talks are really going, conflicting rumours.
But I am worried for the forth coming strikes.i have supported my union on industrial action over the last 28 years and will continue to do so.
I work in one of biggest delivery offices in the country, over 300 staff and the amount of staff who are to defy the union call and attend on monday is alarming.they have lost faith after the 2009 deal, the older ones with only a few years to do are happy with the last deal offer, the younger ones dont see the long term effect its only the hard core in the middle who see what is at stake.
If this is typical across the country we are in trouble.
If this strike is not well supported rm will pounch on this and give us very little.
Lets hope the strategy is right and we prevail. Support your union for our future
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The last part... :wave :wave
scrapsaturdays
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Re: worried

Post by scrapsaturdays »

We have about 120 staff, of which 40 + are p/t. The feelings in our office are similar ,feeling let down by the union on previous deal. Many staff think the CWU is fighting a losing battle and RM will see many cross picket lines and know were a split work force. If we don't get an agreement by Friday then it may be in a weaker negotiating position.
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Re: worried

Post by UnhappyGremlin »

scrapsaturdays wrote:We have about 120 staff, of which 40 + are p/t. The feelings in our office are similar ,feeling let down by the union on previous deal. Many staff think the CWU is fighting a losing battle and RM will see many cross picket lines and know were a split work force. If we don't get an agreement by Friday then it may be in a weaker negotiating position.
Don't get that at all.

If everybody stayed out on Monday, then it would place the union in the strongest possible negotiating position.
And RM would s**t themselves. Moya is testing the water, and if we fail that test, then we're screwed.
Sometimes, I wish I wasn't a Rep.
chrisj
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Re: worried

Post by chrisj »

Previously I predicted about 30% will turn up to work... Perhaps I should revise that figure upwards.

The number of people on this site alone reporting or predicting that certain numbers will turn up to work is increasing.

At work today, we had WTL and the issue of the strike was mentioned by the manager - not a murmur from the staff. It sounded like the manager was more interested than we were. And he told us RM does not want us to strike and there is a video to watch...

Some of the older posties that I have been told will come to work is surprising and even including the gobby PTer who is quick to get the Union rep involved in his aggros with manager. And the £300 is definitely a factor as well as Apathy.

:cuppa
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Re: worried

Post by UnhappyGremlin »

chrisj wrote:Previously I predicted about 30% will turn up to work... Perhaps I should revise that figure upwards.

The number of people on this site alone reporting or predicting that certain numbers will turn up to work is increasing.

At work today, we had WTL and the issue of the strike was mentioned by the manager - not a murmur from the staff. It sounded like the manager was more interested than we were. And he told us RM does not want us to strike and there is a video to watch...

Some of the older posties that I have been told will come to work is surprising and even including the gobby PTer who is quick to get the Union rep involved in his aggros with manager. And the £300 is definitely a factor as well as Apathy.

:cuppa
Would that be the £300 that does not exist? :arrrghhh
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Jpro747
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Re: worried

Post by Jpro747 »

Ok i work at a small office with about 20 staff and only 3 (including myself) are prepared to go on strike on monday. :sad:
chrisj
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Re: worried

Post by chrisj »

It is only on this site that it does not exist. Whether it exist or not, most posties have not heard anything definitive from the CWU. But RM has not changed its propaganda - Moya is still talking about giving £300 to strike breakers and its all over RMTV and the MyRoyalMail website.

I suppose a bit of kidology is good for some folks on this website - fair dos.
Mike1
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Re: worried

Post by Mike1 »

I'm P/T and only been with RM 10 months, so the strike isn't anything to do with me. I work in a small DO and the strike hasn't been mentioned at all and most aren't even in the union. I guess it will be pretty much business as usual for us on Monday.

I've heard a few stories from the old timers saying what a great job it once was...but this is 2013. It's time to get real...being a postie is an unskilled job and there will be plenty of other people willing to take your place at a lower wage.
aiden01
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Post by aiden01 »

Mike1 wrote:I'm P/T and only been with RM 10 months, so the strike isn't anything to do with me. I work in a small DO and the strike hasn't been mentioned at all and most aren't even in the union. I guess it will be pretty much business as usual for us on Monday.

I've heard a few stories from the old timers saying what a great job it once was...but this is 2013. It's time to get real...being a postie is an unskilled job and there will be plenty of other people willing to take your place at a lower wage.
with that attitude mike1 hope you don't get another 10 months in this job.
fishtank
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Re: worried

Post by fishtank »

chrisj wrote:But RM has not changed its propaganda - Moya is still talking about giving £300 to strike breakers and its all over RMTV and the MyRoyalMail website.
The latest propaganda from RM dated yesterday has the £300 removed completely from the "Ground-breaking Offer".

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chrisj
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Re: worried

Post by chrisj »

I think the Union will struggle to get much support from the PT section: they have not listened and it is obvious they have tended to protect the interest of the old timers and full time staff - their mates and perhaps contemporaries...

I know some people will say that the Union have done this and done that for part-timers and contract staff... Perhaps, but not at the same level or with the same vigour as the put into getting everything pro-rata and creating a work place that is discriminatory and one that can be unfair for part-timers especially in delivery.

Why would he not get another 10 months when he probably works well and appreciate that he has a job? Working in a small office, you will probably find out that he might even be made up sooner than later. Typical!
motch
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Re: worried

Post by motch »

Mike1[b] wrote:I'm P/T and only been with RM 10 months, so the strike isn't anything to do with me.[/b] I work in a small DO and the strike hasn't been mentioned at all and most aren't even in the union. I guess it will be pretty much business as usual for us on Monday.

I've heard a few stories from the old timers saying what a great job it once was...but this is 2013. It's time to get real...being a postie is an unskilled job and there will be plenty of other people willing to take your place at a lower wage.


recently employed postie probably the first to go, so more to do with you than most.

yes you will probably be able to re-apply for your job within 3 years to keep it - at minimum wage.
cloherty1976
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Re: worried

Post by cloherty1976 »

It sounds to me that she is offering the £300 now if it's removed from the pay deal. It's simple work and get £300, don't work and don't get £300. If this is the case it will be more publicised before Friday I am sure and that will put the union in a weaker position I would think.