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LOCAL PROPOSAL WE MUST SIGN
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54321
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LOCAL PROPOSAL WE MUST SIGN
Some advice please on our new local proposal!
Basically we must choose A or B to last 12 months, choose by 5th november else you will be made a B.
Choose A if you opt in to nil pressure agreement (current structure) where we could go over our time and not get paid for it, includes collapsing, breaks, to standard etc. Once you get back you may sign off and go home, no cutting off.
Choose B if you you want to opt out and you will be paid overtime (which must be authorised first etc and would be like rocking horse poop) should you go over, still be flexible for 30mins, BUT you must work until 2:40 every day including saturday by taking up any extra work to fill in on quiet tuesdays etc.
Whats the best option guys, is this a good proposal? problems may include differing partners etc then a repick might take place.
Basically we must choose A or B to last 12 months, choose by 5th november else you will be made a B.
Choose A if you opt in to nil pressure agreement (current structure) where we could go over our time and not get paid for it, includes collapsing, breaks, to standard etc. Once you get back you may sign off and go home, no cutting off.
Choose B if you you want to opt out and you will be paid overtime (which must be authorised first etc and would be like rocking horse poop) should you go over, still be flexible for 30mins, BUT you must work until 2:40 every day including saturday by taking up any extra work to fill in on quiet tuesdays etc.
Whats the best option guys, is this a good proposal? problems may include differing partners etc then a repick might take place.
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POSTMAN
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Re: LOCAL PROPOSAL WE MUST SIGN
We went for option F f**k off!
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: LOCAL PROPOSAL WE MUST SIGN
Option C for me - which is Option B without the enforced 30 flexibility - its voluntary even in the BT2010 agreement.
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POSTMAN
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Re: LOCAL PROPOSAL WE MUST SIGN
Anyone go for option G Get rid of the wankey rep?
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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glenfiddich
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Re: LOCAL PROPOSAL WE MUST SIGN
sounds like an east yorkshire thing 
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rhino49
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Re: LOCAL PROPOSAL WE MUST SIGN
Choose option "H" - it's the same as Preparation "H" so you can tell them to shove it up their arse to cure the irritation.
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glenfiddich
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Re: LOCAL PROPOSAL WE MUST SIGN
this is the first bit
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glenfiddich
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Re: LOCAL PROPOSAL WE MUST SIGN
this is option a
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54321
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Re: LOCAL PROPOSAL WE MUST SIGN
it is east yorkshire yes but is it right we should sign and it lasts 12 months ?
or s it the managers can't manage even if there are 6 spare in one office 
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glenfiddich
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Re: LOCAL PROPOSAL WE MUST SIGN
and opton b
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fishtank
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Re: LOCAL PROPOSAL WE MUST SIGN
To be honest Option A is a non-starter,it's a flyer/early starter's charter,it breaches half a dozen national agreements as well as being legally dubious.
Option B is how the job is supposed to be done although I would want some clarification over what "reasonable standard" means.
Option B is how the job is supposed to be done although I would want some clarification over what "reasonable standard" means.
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clashcityrocker
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Re: LOCAL PROPOSAL WE MUST SIGN
Isn't option A (nil pressure agreement) what they are all doing - current structure?fishtank wrote:To be honest Option A is a non-starter.
Have I misread it again?
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rhino49
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Re: LOCAL PROPOSAL WE MUST SIGN
I think it is possibly a management opt out in disguise Fishtank !fishtank wrote:To be honest Option A is a non-starter,it's a flyer/early starter's charter,it breaches half a dozen national agreements as well as being legally dubious.
Option B is how the job is supposed to be done although I would want some clarification over what "reasonable standard" means.
If they give the flyers an agreed status they will not have to argue with staff pissed off at getting out late, when they are at home for 11:30am and there is mail ready to sort at the office for the following day. So "doing the job properly" goes out the window in favour of "do the job without additional expense and you can choose your own hours"
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fishtank
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Re: LOCAL PROPOSAL WE MUST SIGN
Looks like it but I wouldn't touch it with yours.clashcityrocker wrote:Isn't option A (nil pressure agreement) what they are all doing - current structure?
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halfull
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Re: LOCAL PROPOSAL WE MUST SIGN
is this s**t being rolled out on a national level? If so why!!! this rubbish is not in any agreement & ive not heard of the cwu involvement in any of this! If i was in this situation id contact my branch ASAP!