office resigns

[trouble]

Can anyone with knowledge of how an office goes about its resign after a revision please give some advice thanks and point me in the right direction of any written confirmation.
1 year has past since the revision went live in our office and still there is no sign of movement regarding an office resign, management are now quoting the way forward agreement claiming that they only have to consider a resign and not necessarily have one after major change occurs. They are also saying that the men get to decide whether or not a resign takes place and that Royal would not enforce something that the staff do not want.
Please help as I understood the resign to be automatic after a revision especially when all duties have been altered.

[IcanthelpthewayIam]

there should normally be a resign after a major change, however they are correct and that if the office voted specifically to not have a resign then there wouldnt be one

[celerycelery]

there should normally be a resign after a major change, however they are correct and that if the office voted specifically to not have a resign then there wouldnt be one

Sorry but that's rubbish. If a resign is triggered then you cant choose whether you want it to happen or not. That could cause staff to be unable to gain more hours, go to full time etc etc etc and that's not fair. Some people need to grow a pair and accept they may not be on the cushy walk they have been on for a while.

[asap]

there should normally be a resign after a major change, however they are correct and that if the office voted specifically to not have a resign then there wouldnt be one

Sorry but that's rubbish. If a resign is triggered then you cant choose whether you want it to happen or not. That could cause staff to be unable to gain more hours, go to full time etc etc etc and that's not fair. Some people need to grow a pair and accept they may not be on the cushy walk they have been on for a while.

well said i work in a office that had its park and loop revison 3 years ago and were only just getting the resign
i understand that people dont like change but six people have been made up and they could have got ft 3 years ago.

[gerardy]

Hey trouble are you in northern Ireland by any chance as your post sounds very similar to what is happening in my office.
We were always lead to believe by our cwu rep that the resign was a 100% sure thing when you're office went through a revision.
I have never heard any of this information about it only has to be considered, were can I find a copy of this as I would love to read it. It sounds like a get out of jail free card for any managers who do not want a resign to occur due to training costs etc.
I would also love to know what the cwu HQ's thoughts are on this matter as they should have been aware of this potential senario from the start and it can't just be put down to a difference of interpretation.
Can someone tell me in layman's terms does a revision were all duties are affected constitute an office resign?

[asap]

Hey trouble are you in northern Ireland by any chance as your post sounds very similar to what is happening in my office.
We were always lead to believe by our cwu rep that the resign was a 100% sure thing when you're office went through a revision.
I have never heard any of this information about it only has to be considered, were can I find a copy of this as I would love to read it. It sounds like a get out of jail free card for any managers who do not want a resign to occur due to training costs etc.
I would also love to know what the cwu HQ's thoughts are on this matter as they should have been aware of this potential senario from the start and it can't just be put down to a difference of interpretation.
Can someone tell me in layman's terms does a revision were all duties are affected constitute an office resign?

it should happen but what happend were we are based was we voted not to at a local level

[trouble]

Hello Gerardy yes my office is in n.ireland
the managers say they got all the information they are using from the way forward agreement as there was nothing in the bt2010 that covers office resigns.
Maybe someone on here could put up a link to the relevant documents so that we all may read in more detail.

Also I don't understand how an office were able to vote on a resign at a local level as they would suggest that a local agreement supercedes national agreements which is not the case.