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comeracing
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Post by comeracing »

tried selling some shares today I purchased,but guess what I could not because I haven't received my key account number,what a con.anybody else suffered the same fate as me,also the gen public got 227 shares for £750,but we got our shares at a cheaper cost of £500,anyone know how many shares we get for the £500,no idiot answers please.
comeracing
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oh yes I wanted to sell today as when we go on strike shares will go down quicker than the titanic.
dazzlin72
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Post by dazzlin72 »

I didn't buy any, but surely you must have been told how many shares you'd receive for your investment beforehand? Otherwise, who's to say you don't get just 1 share for your £500?
worktotime
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Post by worktotime »

somebody said at work they don't no how many shares hes got , cause he would have sold today at 4.89 , and you should get a certificate on Monday 21st oct , it could be a ploy . another great idea by the powers about. :crazy:
dazzlin72
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Post by dazzlin72 »

If the gen pub got 227 shares, that's how many you should receive, but obviously for £500 as bought at staff discount.
matt76
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Post by matt76 »

They were not discounted for staff. The minimum amount to be bought was reduced to £500 as opposed to £750 for the general public. £500 would have bought 151 shares at the opening price of £3.30.
Biker Mouse
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Post by Biker Mouse »

comeracing wrote:oh yes I wanted to sell today as when we go on strike shares will go down quicker than the titanic.
Bet you're glad you never sold them today. They finished the day at 489.5p at close. If you had of been able to sell earlier you wouldn't have got that much.
dazzlin72
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Post by dazzlin72 »

Even so, depending on how many bought, if only minimum, not worth selling as only be abt same as a weeks wages.
5plusbonusball
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Post by 5plusbonusball »

So won't they be glad they've gone high because we get less shares? So they are bribing us with £2000 worth divided by 4.89 = 409 shares.
So when they even out again, our 409 shares x 3.30 will only be worth £1349 ?? is that right?
Thats £650 LOSS before we even get our certificates. Robbing bar stewards. :evil/mad
Why are lino's paid full-time ??
aposter
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Post by aposter »

5plusbonusball wrote:So won't they be glad they've gone high because we get less shares? So they are bribing us with £2000 worth divided by 4.89 = 409 shares.
So when they even out again, our 409 shares x 3.30 will only be worth £1349 ?? is that right?
Thats £650 LOSS before we even get our certificates. Robbing bar stewards. :evil/mad
You will get the same number of shares regardless of their price (in your free allocation) If the value of the number of shares you are given exceeds £3000 then a proportion of the shares will be held in trust and given to you in the next financial year.
If you bought shares through EPO you will get the amount you paid £xxxx divided by £3.30 Regardless of the price they are trading at when you receive your email/certificate.
5plusbonusball
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Post by 5plusbonusball »

ok thanks , so they are all based on £3.30 not £4.89 so about 909. Spose we'll all know for certain tomorrow.
Why are lino's paid full-time ??
5plusbonusball
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Post by 5plusbonusball »

725 it is , at £4.89 - which will be worth £2392 when the shares fall back to £3.30.
Why are lino's paid full-time ??
chrisj
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Post by chrisj »

comeracing wrote:tried selling some shares today I purchased,but guess what I could not because I haven't received my key account number,what a con.anybody else suffered the same fate as me,also the gen public got 227 shares for £750,but we got our shares at a cheaper cost of £500,anyone know how many shares we get for the £500,no idiot answers please.
No Idiot answers. :left:

£500 gets you 151 shares
£750 gets you 227 shares

Just divide the amount you spent on shares by £3.30

* We were not offered a discounted price - what with being given free shares already... :whistle
** You could have bought as much as £10,000 and would have got them all as we had priority

What is left of the amount above £3000 (limit for a year on SIP) will be distributed next April 2014 (start of financial year)

*** If you had bought through the government website via Equiniti - you should have received email confirmation of number of shares and reference number. Email also tells you how to sell - Call 0845 2688405 to sell all the shares for £7.50. There are others way of selling but have to register or use the post and you could sell some and keep some.

**** What happens to the shares of those that leave - I do not know. But they will make a nice bonus shares for the CEO and other big wigs and perhaps if there are so much of them and they are feeling generous in 5 years time - they might give posties more shares as they have done presently.

Come on folks, we need to read the information sent out and a little of bit of research also helps. :cuppa or myroyalmail.com

**** People that have opted for Share certificate will have to wait till next week - as they will arrive by snail mail - oops by Mail (I bet it will be TNT - irony :nervous ).

***** Posties will get confirmation soon of their allocation. They have only just worked things out. It is not simple mathematics - because it is based on hours worked and based on qualifying period of employment...

Lastly, the high share price is a bit of bummer in terms of paying tax on selling the shares in years 3 - 5 but after that it is just whatever the price is at the time. It is unlikely going to be above £4.00 in 5 years time. But the they are Free and we would have received dividends. :nana

Come on England!

(this perhaps need editing - sorry!)
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chrisj
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Post by chrisj »

The rough calculation based on 150,000 staff is about 666 shares
Assume mid price for today (floatation day) is £4.75

666 * £4.75 = £3163.50 (Value of Posties shares on allocation)

If price is £4.89 - unlikely that the close price is the same as mid price then values of shares is ab £3256.74

Either way, it is more than the £3000 limit an employer is allowed to give for shares in the Share Incentive Plan

* England won - need a beer!
UnhappyGremlin
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Post by UnhappyGremlin »

chrisj wrote:The rough calculation based on 150,000 staff is about 666 shares
Assume mid price for today (floatation day) is £4.75

666 * £4.75 = £3163.50 (Value of Posties shares on allocation)

If price is £4.89 - unlikely that the close price is the same as mid price then values of shares is ab £3256.74

Either way, it is more than the £3000 limit an employer is allowed to give for shares in the Share Incentive Plan

* England won - need a beer!
It's already been announced at 725 for FT staff. 613 this year, and 112 in April 2014. It's just short of £3500.00 for FT staff. (At 'current' prices).
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