All one office?

[Kings Norton]

All one office.
Some time ago before Park and Loop came in we had two divisions in our office in
South Manchester I will call them X and Y divisions so I don’t reveal the identity of the office. X division had good sorters and was off the sorting them days fairly rapid and out the door early as well but nowadays X division has to jump on (as the managers word it) to Y division but then when we ask why is this they say “Its all one office now” but now Y division is back finished at least 1 hour 15 mins before X division where as X division has had to leave packets in because they are now struggling to finish on time. Yet Y division can go home and the office pays overtime to get walks and packets done in ghosting time. Well is seems we are not one office when it comes to 1 30pm every day its a case of Y division has finished before you so its tough attitude.
Overtime lads (Runners) won’t touch door to doors so when the walk holder comes back from sick or leave he/she has last weeks door to doors thrown in his/her frame on a Monday from the week before.
How bad is this?

[mandelsons_toenail]

Same as our office

[k979aaa]

All one office.
Some time ago before Park and Loop came in we had two divisions in our office in
South Manchester I will call them X and Y divisions so I don’t reveal the identity of the office. X division had good sorters and was off the sorting them days fairly rapid and out the door early as well but nowadays X division has to jump on (as the managers word it) to Y division but then when we ask why is this they say “Its all one office now” but now Y division is back finished at least 1 hour 15 mins before X division where as X division has had to leave packets in because they are now struggling to finish on time. Yet Y division can go home and the office pays overtime to get walks and packets done in ghosting time. Well is seems we are not one office when it comes to 1 30pm every day its a case of Y division has finished before you so its tough attitude.
Overtime lads (Runners) won’t touch door to doors so when the walk holder comes back from sick or leave he/she has last weeks door to doors thrown in his/her frame on a Monday from the week before.
How bad is this?

Don't do last weeks D2D shove them up the managers ass!.

[shepherdess]

Report the manager

[Chelseablue]

Loads of surplus d to ds can they demand you do them again following week just to get rid of them!...?..

[k979aaa]

Loads of surplus d to ds can they demand you do them again following week just to get rid of them!...?..

No you should not do last weeks d2d against the contract!

[Ossie From Preston]

From what I understand is that to many door to doors are being sent back so offices has been told duplicate them in any way to get rid.

[IcanthelpthewayIam]

Loads of surplus d to ds can they demand you do them again following week just to get rid of them!...?..

No you should not do last weeks d2d against the contract!

yes you can, if the contract wasnt completed last week, the dom is supposed to contact the walk bundling centre and ask for instructions what to do with them, its the same as if they were late arriving, the walk bundling centre should then contact the contractor and ask what to do, and then if they say deliver them the following week then thats what you do

[Kings Norton]

Loads of surplus d to ds can they demand you do them again following week just to get rid of them!...?..

No you should not do last weeks d2d against the contract!

yes you can, if the contract wasnt completed last week, the dom is supposed to contact the walk bundling centre and ask for instructions what to do with them, its the same as if they were late arriving, the walk bundling centre should then contact the contractor and ask what to do, and then if they say deliver them the following week then thats what you do

Thats bulls**t what if there was a special offer on the door to doors and the date has ran out? Do you think some clown would still ask RM to deliver them when the promotion is over?

[k979aaa]

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[fishtank]

Loads of surplus d to ds can they demand you do them again following week just to get rid of them!...?..

No you should not do last weeks d2d against the contract!

yes you can, if the contract wasnt completed last week, the dom is supposed to contact the walk bundling centre and ask for instructions what to do with them, its the same as if they were late arriving, the walk bundling centre should then contact the contractor and ask what to do, and then if they say deliver them the following week then thats what you do

bullshit contract is a date in time not done in time investigate why and return items you clearly lack all sense graduate manager?

He's right.
Since Royal Mail has breached its contract with the sender they would have to contact them and inform them.
Then it would be up to the sender whether having the D2D delivered the following week was an acceptable solution.
I can't see any situation where Royal Mail would be stupid enough to refuse that solution,have to refund the customer and risk losing a lucrative contract.

I also cannot for the life of me see any situation where a member would refuse to deliver D2D inside their contracted hours.
That's just f***ing suicidal.

[IcanthelpthewayIam]

Loads of surplus d to ds can they demand you do them again following week just to get rid of them!...?..

No you should not do last weeks d2d against the contract!

yes you can, if the contract wasnt completed last week, the dom is supposed to contact the walk bundling centre and ask for instructions what to do with them, its the same as if they were late arriving, the walk bundling centre should then contact the contractor and ask what to do, and then if they say deliver them the following week then thats what you do

bullshit contract is a date in time not done in time investigate why and return items you clearly lack all sense graduate manager?

It's not bullshit and don't call me a manager just because you disagree with me especially when I am correct and your the one talking bs

[k979aaa]

Loads of surplus d to ds can they demand you do them again following week just to get rid of them!...?..

No you should not do last weeks d2d against the contract!

yes you can, if the contract wasnt completed last week, the dom is supposed to contact the walk bundling centre and ask for instructions what to do with them, its the same as if they were late arriving, the walk bundling centre should then contact the contractor and ask what to do, and then if they say deliver them the following week then thats what you do

bullshit contract is a date in time not done in time investigate why and return items you clearly lack all sense graduate manager?

It's not bullshit and don't call me a manager just because you disagree with me especially when I am correct and your the one talking bs

Hang on so some poor postman should do last weeks door to door because some piss poor manager did not enforce it on his buddys don't come on here and tell me I am talking bullshit quality of service is a management issue defend it at your peril last weeks d2d or last weeks mail is someone else's problem if anyone told me to do them they can f**k off!.

[Kings Norton]

Loads of surplus d to ds can they demand you do them again following week just to get rid of them!...?..

No you should not do last weeks d2d against the contract!

yes you can, if the contract wasnt completed last week, the dom is supposed to contact the walk bundling centre and ask for instructions what to do with them, its the same as if they were late arriving, the walk bundling centre should then contact the contractor and ask what to do, and then if they say deliver them the following week then thats what you do

bullshit contract is a date in time not done in time investigate why and return items you clearly lack all sense graduate manager?

He's right.
Since Royal Mail has breached its contract with the sender they would have to contact them and inform them.
Then it would be up to the sender whether having the D2D delivered the following week was an acceptable solution.
I can't see any situation where Royal Mail would be stupid enough to refuse that solution,have to refund the customer and risk losing a lucrative contract.

I also cannot for the life of me see any situation where a member would refuse to deliver D2D inside their contracted hours.
That's just f***ing suicidal.

Fishtank I think there is a difference of doing last weeks door to doors than filling up a entire frame with them on a Monday morning for the person that has just been on leave or sick. We are on short hours Monday plus its 100% call rate personally I might consider doing 20% of last weeks doorS to door depending on the mail volume that day. Then again let the walk holder spread them out over the week catch up they call it.

[fishtank]

Fishtank I think there is a difference of doing last weeks door to doors than filling up a entire frame with them on a Monday morning for the person that has just been on leave or sick. We are on short hours Monday plus its 100% call rate personally I might consider doing 20% of last weeks doorS to door depending on the mail volume that day. Then again let the walk holder spread them out over the week catch up they call it.

There are far more sensible resourcing methods than filling up an entire frame with them on a Monday morning.
You would like to think that an experienced manager with the help of an experienced rep and the input of the duty holder would discuss that and come to a sensible resolution but in the event of the manager digging his/her heels in and insisting on this ridiculous idea then the solution would be to take as much of the frame you can to provide enough work until your finish time and let the manager resource the rest.