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temp contract and strike

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leeroy5312
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temp contract and strike

Post by leeroy5312 »

hi guys, i'm currently on a temp contract that runs out at the end of october, this coupled with our mail centre being closed over the next few months has made my future more uncertain than it already was.

my options are
a) i strike with everybody else and they decide to lose me when my contract is up
b) i go in over the strikes and hope they keep me going

its not good that they dont let me know if i'm getting a new contract but do you think i'd be seen as a scab for trying to keep my job?
viking1488
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Re: temp contract and strike

Post by viking1488 »

leeroy5312 wrote:hi guys, i'm currently on a temp contract that runs out at the end of october, this coupled with our mail centre being closed over the next few months has made my future more uncertain than it already was.

my options are
a) i strike with everybody else and they decide to lose me when my contract is up
b) i go in over the strikes and hope they keep me going

its not good that they dont let me know if i'm getting a new contract but do you think i'd be seen as a scab for trying to keep my job?
its( a) mate that's the way forward :thumbup we are all in the same boat up s**t creek
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Re: temp contract and strike

Post by Lincox »

Leeroy you have a decision to make which is the envy of none. You have to weigh up in your own mind whether the long term aims of the reason for a strike call not only for yourself but also your colleagues has greater importance to you than the short term problems you may or may not have to cope with if you go on strike. Good luck mate, as I say a very big call for you.
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Re: temp contract and strike

Post by ysbrydtawel »

leeroy5312 wrote:hi guys, i'm currently on a temp contract that runs out at the end of october, this coupled with our mail centre being closed over the next few months has made my future more uncertain than it already was.

my options are
a) i strike with everybody else and they decide to lose me when my contract is up
b) i go in over the strikes and hope they keep me going

its not good that they dont let me know if i'm getting a new contract but do you think i'd be seen as a scab for trying to keep my job?
Who cares if you're seen as a scab? Rather be seen as a scab and earn £300+ a week, than not be seen a scab but earn £50 a week on the dole.
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Stella102
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Re: temp contract and strike

Post by Stella102 »

if you don't strike , temp contracts will be the first to go if a deal aint made mate they are looking to cut jobs so union needs to make a long term deal to stop this then u will be fine.

they cant sack u for striking.
chrisj
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Re: temp contract and strike

Post by chrisj »

Temp contract will always be the first to go. that is why they are temp contract. And this will happen (and it is hapening) regardless of who the owner of the company is.

People have been on these sort of temp contracts for about 3 years now - it is the way forward in a lot of companies. Striking will not protect you, mate. The Union has not even mentioned your plight now and do not seem to care...

Being a 'Strike breaker' is better than being a scrounger on the Dole!

People and the CWU should actually encourage you not to STRIKE - if they have a heart!
Mr Whizz
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Re: temp contract and strike

Post by Mr Whizz »

From my understanding, the union can't sack you within 12 weeks of going on strike. For P/T folk it's irrelevant because they just won't renew your contract if you start playing up.

If think the p/timers who joined a few years back when you didn't need a driving licence will be in a vulnerable position. I joined 9 months ago and do 2/3 afternoon collections per week which put's me in a stronger position. I work in a smaller office and we would be in the s**t if it wasn't for P/timers as we're permanently short staffed.

Some of the F/T staff in our office who've been there 20 odd years don't even acknowledge us and they certainly wouldn't care if we lost our jobs by striking.
clashcityrocker
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Post by clashcityrocker »

chrisj wrote:
People and the CWU should actually encourage you not to STRIKE - if they have a heart!
Though if you take your head out of your arse for one minute you might see it differently.
The questions are these:
In the greater scheme of things do I want to support the workers (class) or the bosses (class)?
When you are old and looking back on your life, do you want to remember the time you stood up for your principles or the time you sold them out?

And strikebreaking won't do you any good. Because the bosses will disrespect you as much as ultimately you will disrespect yourself.
So stand proudly with your colleagues on the picket line (if it comes to that).
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chrisj
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Re: temp contract and strike

Post by chrisj »

Anyone that cannot see that this is a special case must belong to the 'I'm alright, jack brigade - and we do have some many of them amongst the established staff at RM.

This temp on probably a 3 months contract is barely better than an Agency (Angard*) worker:
  • Does he have a pension? Definitely Not!
    What are his current terms and conditions beyond the 3 months assigment. You cannot protect what you have not got
    What about pay rise - will he even still be RM to enjoy a pay rise? An even if he is on a 6 months contract - any loss of earnings and bonus will wipe out his pay rise.
    Has he been awarded any shares?
    Is this worker ever going to be a FT staff - almost certainly not
    Even if you took part in a Strike, you will see be on a different contract to the people on perm contract

So what is he going to be striking for? A job loss/the sack** and striking for others that already have a job and are protected from the sack if they went on strike?

Do me a favour, this is not about me and it is not about us (workers) and them (bosses). What is that about anyway?

* At least some of the Angard staff have secured some work and money for xmas - that boat is gone...
** Just be careful when you go to the job centre for your Universal Credit - do not tell me, you did yourself out of a job by foolishly going on strike.

If the CWU had said, we want RM to make all those on temporary contract permanent as a one-off; that I can understand (even I will strike for that). A moratorium for temp staff like those suggested by Lib Dem - as regards immigrants that have been in the country for a long time...
motch
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Re: temp contract and strike

Post by motch »

it's a tricky one. How about having an accident at work a few days/week before any strike ?*


* edit (I didn't really write this by the way, must of been sleep typing)
SP115
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Re: temp contract and strike

Post by SP115 »

I'm on a temp contract and will be striking, f**k 'em if they don't renew my contract, Looking for another job ATM anyway, Couple interviews coming up :thumbup
viking1488
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Re: temp contract and strike

Post by viking1488 »

chrisj wrote:Temp contract will always be the first to go. that is why they are temp contract. And this will happen (and it is hapening) regardless of who the owner of the company is.

People have been on these sort of temp contracts for about 3 years now - it is the way forward in a lot of companies. Striking will not protect you, mate. The Union has not even mentioned your plight now and do not seem to care...

Being a 'Strike breaker' is better than being a scrounger on the Dole!

People and the CWU should actually encourage you not to STRIKE - if they have a heart!
if this is how people are thinking we are well a truly f****d :arrrghhh
Harry_Perkins
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Post by Harry_Perkins »

I struck on a temp contract last time. They did not get rid of me. I was made permanent. They can't give you detrimental treatment because you take Industrial Action.
You must understand that I am here purely as A BEARER OF MESSAGES.
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Re: temp contract and strike

Post by Shambles »

Like I pointed out the other day, some people haven't got a fooking clue! :so there
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