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What does a good offer look like?
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DOM
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What does a good offer look like?
I don't think anyone wants to strike but I understand sometimes people feel the need to as a last resort to force change. I also understand that people will be voting yes to strike for all sorts of different reasons but for you what would prevent you from striking now? Bearing in mind that privatisation is going ahead and changes need to be made to keep RM profitable.
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chickenwittle
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Re: What does a good offer look like?
to many to mention.
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viking1488
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Re: What does a good offer look like?
nothing would stop me now and yes I want to strike just had enough
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: What does a good offer look like?
Nothing - I am against privatisation and we have not had a democratic say on it. So I will be exercising my Democratic right to remove my labour.
Ignoring privatisation
Above inflation rise, remove the no strike deal, more information on the "Industrial Stability" agreement (who would sign up to an agreement when we don't know what it says), and more movement on the Pension.
IMHO the 3 or 10 year legally binding guarantee is a red-herring from both RM and the CWU. There is no way that anyone could draw up an iron clad guarantee, and because of that both parties will play any weakness to their benefit anyway, so it won't be worth the paper its written on.
Ignoring privatisation
Above inflation rise, remove the no strike deal, more information on the "Industrial Stability" agreement (who would sign up to an agreement when we don't know what it says), and more movement on the Pension. IMHO the 3 or 10 year legally binding guarantee is a red-herring from both RM and the CWU. There is no way that anyone could draw up an iron clad guarantee, and because of that both parties will play any weakness to their benefit anyway, so it won't be worth the paper its written on.
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Cut Off King
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Re: What does a good offer look like?
Can you explain yourself a little more, you seem to be saying that any agreement struck won't be binding and can / will be changed by the new owners. So why would you strike if you have no faith in the outcome and you feel that you'll be dupe'd by either party.TrueBlueTerrier wrote:IMHO the 3 or 10 year legally binding guarantee is a red-herring from both RM and the CWU. There is no way that anyone could draw up an iron clad guarantee, and because of that both parties will play any weakness to their benefit anyway, so it won't be worth the paper its written on.
What would you like to see happening ?
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edwardo
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Re: What does a good offer look like?
voted yes just pissed off with RM management talking total p**h for the last 30 years don t care if I lose money , as long as they do millions , outwith their control for once ha ha
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fishtank
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Re: What does a good offer look like?
An act of god,death or a couple of million on the lottery and to be honest even with the lottery win I would probably hang around long enough to strike,just to be awkward.DOM wrote:I also understand that people will be voting yes to strike for all sorts of different reasons but for you what would prevent you from striking now?.
On a more serious note the business needs a massive management root and branch overhaul if it's to make it in the private sector,there's more dead wood in there than an MFI warehouse so It's probably best if you guys start sorting out them apples first and leave the fighting and protecting of hard won terms and conditions to the professionals,nothing personal.
What would prevent me from striking now,joining the CMA probably.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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Glenno
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Re: What does a good offer look like?
DOM let me run thru your postDOM wrote:I don't think anyone wants to strike but I understand sometimes people feel the need to as a last resort to force change. I also understand that people will be voting yes to strike for all sorts of different reasons but for you what would prevent you from striking now? Bearing in mind that privatisation is going ahead and changes need to be made to keep RM profitable.
1. You are quite right I don't think anybody WANTS a strike
2. The Reasons behind this Ballot is that YOUR & Our masters have spoken, at the TOP table all sorts of issues are discussed and Negotiated, Pensions, Pay rises, what constitutes a fair days wage for a fair days work, B&H on a daily scale, Terms & Conditions that will busted apart, not just mine or ours but yours as well.
3. Read my Lips this Ballot IS NOT ABOUT PRIVITISATION, it is about preserving the Terms & Working conditions now, thru, and after Privitisation
4. Royal Mail Group (RMG) is already in profit, and has been for quite a while now (apart from when Colleague Shares) were supposed to have been paid
Just my observations DOM........................
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UnhappyGremlin
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Re: What does a good offer look like?
Nothing will prevent me striking. If the vote comes in, and a date is set, that's it.
Sometimes, I wish I wasn't a Rep.
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dvbuk55
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Re: What does a good offer look like?
Blonde, blue eyed, well proportioned, rich and wants to pamper an older experienced man. Now that's what I'd call a good offer and one I would be reluctant to refuse 
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Lincox
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Re: What does a good offer look like?
Hope you haven,t been oggling Moya DVB 
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post_bitch
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Re: What does a good offer look like?
an extra 20 pence an hour?
They took control the books are closed.
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They took control the books are closed.
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clean and original ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkkC9cK8Hz0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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dvbuk55
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Re: What does a good offer look like?
Lincox wrote:Hope you haven,t been oggling Moya DVB
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ARTHUR29
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Re: What does a good offer look like?
must have plenty of money lolviking1488 wrote:nothing would stop me now and yes I want to strike just had enough
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Pat Ostman
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Re: What does a good offer look like?
That's brilliant.fishtank wrote:An act of god,death or a couple of million on the lottery and to be honest even with the lottery win I would probably hang around long enough to strike,just to be awkward.DOM wrote:I also understand that people will be voting yes to strike for all sorts of different reasons but for you what would prevent you from striking now?.
Run, rabbit run. Dig that hole, forget the sun.
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And when at last the work is done. Don't sit down, it's time to dig another one