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so how can we prevent privatisation this time?

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She Raa
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so how can we prevent privatisation this time?

Post by She Raa »

So how can we prevent privatisation this time?

Ok, so we strike. This shows we, as a majority, appose privatisation strongly.

But then what?
clashcityrocker
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Re: so how can we prevent privatisation this time?

Post by clashcityrocker »

The fight is to protect our terms and conditions.
Whether 41% of the business is sold off in the next few weeks is neither here nor there.
The fight to protect our terms and conditions will continue.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
She Raa
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Re: so how can we prevent privatisation this time?

Post by She Raa »

Yes but other than striking, what else have we got to fight with?
LinChong
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Re: so how can we prevent privatisation this time?

Post by LinChong »

Every member can warn everyone they meet not to buy Royal Mail shares because it will be re-nationalised like Railtrack was. Even if investors get get 6% dividend in the first year, the share price will drop far enough to wipe out this gain. Strikes will mean that re-nationalisation will take place very soon. Railtrack investors bought shares at 370p. They went down to 17p and the government had to pay out 262p in the end after expensive lawyers were hired by investors.

If 150,000 CWU members get the message across that anyone who buys Royal Mail shares is a mug, this might have an effect. There is nothing to lose by trying.
labbloke
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Re: so how can we prevent privatisation this time?

Post by labbloke »

I presume the prospectus will be out in the next few weeks, several million of them no doubt, how about we take some positive action and refuse to deliver them. Lol
eian687
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Re: so how can we prevent privatisation this time?

Post by eian687 »

at the moment if mail is late or customer has a gripe they say we pay your wages your a service etc,
once they are share holders god help us I AM A SHARE HOLDER I WANT MY MAIL 1ST :crazy:
DirtyHarry
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Re: so how can we prevent privatisation this time?

Post by DirtyHarry »

I would say, don't fight to protect eroded terms and conditions, fight to restore the terms and conditions of employment we once enjoyed.
Our terms and conditions of employment as they currently stand, have people genuinely doubting that we are a supposedly unionised industry. And I don't blame them.
peanut19651
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Re: so how can we prevent privatisation this time?

Post by peanut19651 »

Is it illegal to strike if you are a share holder in a company you work for?
wandle
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Re: so how can we prevent privatisation this time?

Post by wandle »

peanut19651 wrote:Is it illegal to strike if you are a share holder in a company you work for?
Foolish, yes.
Illegal, no :left:
Dorset Plodder
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Re: so how can we prevent privatisation this time?

Post by Dorset Plodder »

peanut19651 wrote:Is it illegal to strike if you are a share holder in a company you work for?
Perhaps you've hit on the MAIN reason for RM "Giving" us "Free" shares Peanut. :hmmmm

Perhaps they think it will split the workforce even further and dissuade all those Shareholders from going on strike to protect their T & Cs? :whistle
Like all Wage Slaves, he had two crosses to bear: The people he worked for and the people he worked with! (Stephen Vizinczey.)
red666bear
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Re: so how can we prevent privatisation this time?

Post by red666bear »

labbloke wrote:I presume the prospectus will be out in the next few weeks, several million of them no doubt, how about we take some positive action and refuse to deliver them. Lol
poor posting,
the prospectus will be published in electronic form and posted on the royal mail website.
fishtank
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Re: so how can we prevent privatisation this time?

Post by fishtank »

red666bear wrote:
labbloke wrote:I presume the prospectus will be out in the next few weeks, several million of them no doubt, how about we take some positive action and refuse to deliver them. Lol
poor posting,
the prospectus will be published in electronic form and posted on the royal mail website.
Poor posting,
The prospectus will be published in electronic form and posted on the Government website.

https://www.gov.uk/royalmailshares" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
Glenno
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Re: so how can we prevent privatisation this time?

Post by Glenno »

fishtank wrote:
red666bear wrote:
labbloke wrote:I presume the prospectus will be out in the next few weeks, several million of them no doubt, how about we take some positive action and refuse to deliver them. Lol
poor posting,
the prospectus will be published in electronic form and posted on the royal mail website.
Poor posting,
The prospectus will be published in electronic form and posted on the Government website.

https://www.gov.uk/royalmailshares" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Poor posting,
the prospectus will be published in electronic form and posted on THIS website

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 5&p=588991" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; :left: :nana :left: :nana
:wave :wave
wandle
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Re: so how can we prevent privatisation this time?

Post by wandle »

It's ironic that a government keen to induce people to buy shares in a mail company, does not insist that all applications - for this particular privatisation - are made by post :crazy:
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Re: so how can we prevent privatisation this time?

Post by Lounge Lizard »

LinChong wrote:Every member can warn everyone they meet not to buy Royal Mail shares because it will be re-nationalised like Railtrack was. Even if investors get get 6% dividend in the first year, the share price will drop far enough to wipe out this gain. Strikes will mean that re-nationalisation will take place very soon. Railtrack investors bought shares at 370p. They went down to 17p and the government had to pay out 262p in the end after expensive lawyers were hired by investors.

If 150,000 CWU members get the message across that anyone who buys Royal Mail shares is a mug, this might have an effect. There is nothing to lose by trying.
So Railtrack shares at 370p down to 17p :crazy: Likewise our £2,000 might soon be down to about £92. No matter, I don't really want them anyway. :nana