i've raised issues with our union area rep lately re collapsing duties,
not a problem booking over if i can do it, i've got a good oppo and we usually get done in time anyway.
my argument is on the busy days our managers prep duties, even walk some!
rep can't grasp that 1 or 2 would be made up to full time if these leeches were forced to stop doing our jobs,
i would gladly do 1 hours prep on overtime, but our managers keep thieving our hours, its not our fault that we are understaffed at times,
he's more interested that we should all use our trolliies, we were issued with 1 per van?
and that i cannot drop my oppo off on the way back, which i drive pass his house, i can see the latter as a point, but if we are "just over" why pay him 15/30 mins just to pouch off?
i also raised an issue about a £200 revision payment which is well overdue, his excuse was that we still had things to resolve that were unknown to all?
it really makes me wonder if my area rep is on our side, getting to the stage where i can only justify my sub in case of a serious personal issue
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puzzled?
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loverman shabba
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Re: puzzled?
I keep questioning why I pay union subs!! Never seem to do anything in our favour.
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DGP1
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Re: puzzled?
How would a rep be able to stop managers from doing our work????
Would you be willing to walk to the gate if asked?? Would the rest of the office be prepared to do the same??
Would you be willing to walk to the gate if asked?? Would the rest of the office be prepared to do the same??
I'm preparing myself for the zombie invasion, rule number 1 - Cardio
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arthur was right
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Re: puzzled?
This is how useless I find the cwu in my area! Im on my way out very soon ....royal mail want me out for telling the truth.
I'M not even gonna bother with union help[even though im a member] when they come to push me ..cos I find them spineless and ineffective... thats our sad it is.
The cwu are too cosy with the bosses..come on its true anything what management want ....management get. Your on your own in this job
I'M not even gonna bother with union help[even though im a member] when they come to push me ..cos I find them spineless and ineffective... thats our sad it is.
The cwu are too cosy with the bosses..come on its true anything what management want ....management get. Your on your own in this job
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tommyrep
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Re: puzzled?
Arthurarthur was right wrote:This is how useless I find the cwu in my area! Im on my way out very soon ....royal mail want me out for telling the truth.
I'M not even gonna bother with union help[even though im a member] when they come to push me ..cos I find them spineless and ineffective... thats our sad it is.
The cwu are too cosy with the bosses..come on its true anything what management want ....management get. Your on your own in this job
I do appreciate your position, and you have my sympathies ! I reckon your colleagues will view you as a throw back to the militant days, when unions were stronger and had some principals - that is their existence was purely to support beleaguered ill done by members ! Unfortunately the strength of any union is reflective of its members and we have too many " I'm all right Jacks" who are not prepared to support others and take the view that existing problems or inequalities will never arrive on THEIR doorstep.
In that future eventual event, they will have the loudest voice in seeking support from others. Your point about CWU being too cosy with management has an element of truth, my worry is that over a long period of time there has been a steady erosion of morale within members and our leadership have failed to act upon it - open gates and bolting horses spring to mind !!!
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arthur was right
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Re: puzzled?
Fair play tommy rep you speak a lot of sense... im surrounded by the "im alright jack brigade" where i work[ed] they are an office full of pussies
sorry to be so blunt...but its the truth..
sorry to be so blunt...but its the truth..
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aiden01
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Re: puzzled?
are managers allowed to do opg work.DGP1 wrote:How would a rep be able to stop managers from doing our work????
Would you be willing to walk to the gate if asked?? Would the rest of the office be prepared to do the same??
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DGP1
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Does it stop them?aiden01 wrote:are managers allowed to do opg work.DGP1 wrote:How would a rep be able to stop managers from doing our work????
Would you be willing to walk to the gate if asked?? Would the rest of the office be prepared to do the same??
I'm preparing myself for the zombie invasion, rule number 1 - Cardio
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tommyrep
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Re: puzzled?
No, they only do it to improve EP figures etc, this practice should be stopped NOW !aiden01 wrote:are managers allowed to do opg work.DGP1 wrote:How would a rep be able to stop managers from doing our work????
Would you be willing to walk to the gate if asked?? Would the rest of the office be prepared to do the same??
We need to focus on securing the hours required for ANY opg work - only "pressure overtime" worked gets any reaction or attention from DSM's
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Surreypostie
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Re: puzzled?
Nothing to stop them, it just shows they don't have enough to do of their own. I couldn't do any of their work in my time, hardly got time to break wind.aiden01 wrote:are managers allowed to do opg work.DGP1 wrote:How would a rep be able to stop managers from doing our work????
Would you be willing to walk to the gate if asked?? Would the rest of the office be prepared to do the same??
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UnhappyGremlin
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I thought there was an agreement with the CWU that states managers aren't to do OPG work.micksurrey wrote:Nothing to stop them, it just shows they don't have enough to do of their own. I couldn't do any of their work in my time, hardly got time to break wind.aiden01 wrote:are managers allowed to do opg work.DGP1 wrote:How would a rep be able to stop managers from doing our work????
Would you be willing to walk to the gate if asked?? Would the rest of the office be prepared to do the same??
That's what my boss told me.
According to my boss, they are allowed to do 15 mins a day as a last resort to ensure the workload gets completed.
Not that it matters in my office, managers won't even do their own work, let alone any of ours.
Sometimes, I wish I wasn't a Rep.