The IB and the difference between PT and FT staff

[resperin]

IB done this at another office near me; a full timer left the van on with reg at the front, tracked, packets etc. he got taken off driving for a couple weeks. then they got a different manager, and it wasnt brought up again. hes back on driving.

another person diddnt tie his trolley up he just got advice

it all depends on the manager; IB will catch/find, but the manager makes the descicion on what level they take it in terms of conduct code

[Phantom]

Or do the job properly and you don't have this kind of worry. Simples! No short cuts!

[chickenwittle]

we all make mistakes of varying degrees,people are simply pointing out the unfairness of the punishment.

[postiel]

can they take away his pension.
years of perfect service and one mistake.
surely not

[cloherty1976]

I think your jumping the gun here. No one knows the facts and outcome and you seem to have already charged a fellow colleague.

[RobertT]

can they take away his pension.
years of perfect service and one mistake.
surely not

His pension will be deferred as if he left the company under normal circumstances.

[parcelboy]

we all make mistakes of varying degrees,people are simply pointing out the unfairness of the punishment.

Like helping a member of public and it being turned into "Wilful Delay" amazing what a greivance can do to bring about your dismissal.Untill this regime of corrupt "Management"is replaced i feel things will never change.Looks like there using IB to do dirty work now what a good company to work for W******

[Lance Jack]

You sure these are IB and not just some sort of Manager doing a check? The way I understand it the IB are very short staffed and only react when a pattern becomes apparent. The idea that they just have a look to see if you are doing something wrong, which you may or may not be, seems like it maybe a lower level of IB or not them at all.
I had two of these stop me last year and ask me why I had not locked my bike? I said can you not see the great big U-lock through the frame and back wheel? He said "Oh yes, keep it up" and walked off.

[BernardBresslaw]

Say, for example, you deliver a rural delivery in a van, and you are delivering down a long rural-ish road, but the houses are close together, how would you deliver that to be IB-safe? Would you seriously edge a few meters a time, in your van, turn the engine off, lock all the doors, walk up the path, deliver the letters, then walk down the path, unlock the van again, start the engine, then repeat?

A genuine question. I always thought, in that scenario, as long as the van is close, and you see it at all times, you can leave the engine running?

[DirtyHarry]

I sympathise with our colleague, but this is why we must do the job properly. No rushing, no cutting corners, just do the job to spec.
Royal Mail bosses want to have their cake, and eat it........Don't give 'em that satisfaction.

[UnhappyGremlin]

Say, for example, you deliver a rural delivery in a van, and you are delivering down a long rural-ish road, but the houses are close together, how would you deliver that to be IB-safe? Would you seriously edge a few meters a time, in your van, turn the engine off, lock all the doors, walk up the path, deliver the letters, then walk down the path, unlock the van again, start the engine, then repeat?

That's absolutely correct.

A genuine question. I always thought, in that scenario, as long as the van is close, and you see it at all times, you can leave the engine running?

That is a dismissal offence.
As earlier stated by JimmyCarrsLaugh, if you're FT you'll be gone, PT you may survive.

Plus why try to cut corners? Do as it should be done, and they have nothing on you. If it takes you over time, either book it or cut off (under correct procedures obviously).

It's not like it used to be, I've known lads that have had vans stolen and not even gotten a written warning, just a verbal. But those days are long gone. Don't give them the excuse to sack you, because they will.

[arnold cheshire]

we had a PT guy sacked for using his car no one is immune

[fmrPOSTIE]

OP - are you sure of the facts ....? I don't believe IB conduct these sorts of investigations anyway u have no idea on their staffing levels ( believe me it's insignificant ).

Plus all speculative

[BernardBresslaw]

Say, for example, you deliver a rural delivery in a van, and you are delivering down a long rural-ish road, but the houses are close together, how would you deliver that to be IB-safe? Would you seriously edge a few meters a time, in your van, turn the engine off, lock all the doors, walk up the path, deliver the letters, then walk down the path, unlock the van again, start the engine, then repeat?

That's absolutely correct.

A genuine question. I always thought, in that scenario, as long as the van is close, and you see it at all times, you can leave the engine running?

That is a dismissal offence.
As earlier stated by JimmyCarrsLaugh, if you're FT you'll be gone, PT you may survive.

Plus why try to cut corners? Do as it should be done, and they have nothing on you. If it takes you over time, either book it or cut off (under correct procedures obviously).

It's not like it used to be, I've known lads that have had vans stolen and not even gotten a written warning, just a verbal. But those days are long gone. Don't give them the excuse to sack you, because they will.

Oh it's nothing to do with cutting corners, I honestly didn't know. Thanks. I can't see my battered old Vauxhall surviving that punishment. It's had 3 radiator faults in a month.

[OnAFlyer]

Say, for example, you deliver a rural delivery in a van, and you are delivering down a long rural-ish road, but the houses are close together, how would you deliver that to be IB-safe? Would you seriously edge a few meters a time, in your van, turn the engine off, lock all the doors, walk up the path, deliver the letters, then walk down the path, unlock the van again, start the engine, then repeat?

A genuine question. I always thought, in that scenario, as long as the van is close, and you see it at all times, you can leave the engine running?

Surely you'd park up, the van, lock it then deliver to at least several houses before moving the van again if they are that close together? It sounds like your describing driving door to door to some terraced houses

I always always lock the van up, even if I'm stood 2 yards away delivering a parcel to a house fronting onto the pavement. And never carry stuff on the passenger seat apart from the drop you're going to, it's not even any quicker than just opening the back door to get the parcels.

It seems to be quite lenient in our office though, we've had stuff stolen from a van that wasn't locked and a window smashed to grab stuff left on the passenger seat but nothing happened to the staff responsible.