Ill health retirement.

[jw1234]

Hi, ive got a few questions for those ITK -

1. How much do you get? I assume you would get near nothing for 2 years service?
2. Do you have to take it? Will you just get sacked otherwise?
3. How does it affect getting a job in the future, as I'm still quite young..

Thanks

[clashcityrocker]

1. About 34 weeks wages. Length of service is fairly immaterial.
2. No - you can appeal an IHR decision.
3. Depends on the job you apply for.

[Darren Bent]

will we get 34 weeks tax free or after tax. Just checking.

[bahtatter]

tax free

[Darren Bent]

Thanks for information

[Postal Postie II]

It's not looking too good for me either. Been in constant pain since December last year. I'm now seriously struggling and have no idea what to do for the best.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

It's not looking too good for me either. Been in constant pain since December last year. I'm now seriously struggling and have no idea what to do for the best.

Use ATOS they are there for us as well as management. Ask your manager to refer you.

[jw1234]

It's not looking too good for me either. Been in constant pain since December last year. I'm now seriously struggling and have no idea what to do for the best.

Use ATOS they are there for us as well as management. Ask your manager to refer you.

Ive done this, just wondering what they do? I've been told they just advise managers what work we can do, and then It is up to the managers to try and accommodate you.

[Darren Bent]

You could ask ATOS if they will recommend ill health retirement if you want it. Just a suggestion.

[flaminmoses]

i didnt think it was a good idea to ask them.

you tend to be looked as a possible if you have been off for several months.

34 weeks plus the pilon is non taxable.

[k979aaa]

I suppose 34 weeks is better than 34 weeks after privatisation and minimum wage if we can get that deal then.

[Sparrowhawk]

1. About 34 weeks wages. Length of service is fairly immaterial.
2. No - you can appeal an IHR decision.
3. Depends on the job you apply for.

^^^THIS^^^

You get 34 weeks wages plus 9 weeks Pay In Lieu Of Notice (PILON). That's tax free. You also get paid for any annual leave if you have any left, but that IS taxable. I got just under £16k when I took IHR (Aug 2011) and had been working for RM for only 8 years.
Depending on what your medical condition is, if you are able to do so then I'd strongly suggest that you try to find a more suitable job first, before going down the IHR route. The jobs market is pretty rubbish right now. Most jobs advertised are Zero hours contracts, "part time" jobs at stupidly low hours (e.g.4hr/8hr per week), then there's the Kleeneze/Betterware catalogue type door to door sales "jobs" for which you work as self employed, self employed delivery van drivers etc.
You'd be very lucky to find anything that pays much over national minimum wage...and that includes the zero hours/4hr/8hr contracts as above.
If you are unlucky and can't find an alternative job straight away, that IHR money really doesn't go far when you have nothing else to live on.
If you sign on at the job centre for Jobseekers Allowance, that's £56.60/week if you're under 25 or £71.70/week if 25 or over.
You would have to look for and apply for ALL types of work. You would have to look for/apply for a set amount of jobs per week...with the number depending on whether you get a "nice" JCP advisor or a nasty one. You will be subjected to sanctions - where ALL of your benefit is stopped for 4 weeks minimum (for a first sanction) and up to 3 years (for repeat "non - compliance). Sanctions are at the discretion of your JCP advisor and can be issued for something as trivial as being 2 minutes late/missing your signing on day or time due to illness or even going for a job interview. YES...JCP staff REALLY are that harsh ! You will also be made to take part in MANDATORY Work Activity - which means that you are "farmed off" to a "work programme provider" - WPP - (G4S/Serco/Capita/Ingeus plus others). These WPPs are PAID by the government when a; they sign you on to their books, b; again when they find you a "work placement" (stacking shelves in Poundland (who get paid £3000 PER JOBSEEKER) for NO pay - JUST your JSA ! There's a huge list of private companies involved in this.) Then, c; the WPP gets paid AGAIN if you are kept in a "work placement" for 3 months, d; then they are paid YET AGAIN if/when YOU find paid employment...whether THEY helped to get you the job or not ! Better still, if you are a "difficult to place" claimant (due to health issues/disability), the work programme provider gets paid even more (up to about £8,500 per claimant !) than they get for fit/healthy claimants !
WPPs get paid by the government, out of TAXPAYERS MONEY, a minimum of 4 times PER CLAIMANT, then private firms (Tesco/Asda/Argos/Homebase plus many more. I even saw RM named on a government list of these firms involved in WORKFARE !) also get £3000 PER CLAIMANT, while the claimant is forced, at the threat of ALL money being STOPPED, to "work" for not a penny more than their Jobseekers Allowance !

If you were to claim ESA (Employment and Support Allowance - the replacement for Incapacity Benefit), you would be paid at the assessment rate of £71.70/week (or £56.60 if under 25). You would have to fill in a (very long) "Limited Capability For Work" form (ESA50) and send it back completed within 28 days along with supporting medical evidence of your health condition. You would also have to pay a visit to.............our "friends".....ATOS.....for a Work Capability Assessment where an Atos "healthcare professional" = a NURSE/PHYSIOTHERAPIST/MIDWIFE/ or very rarely, a Doctor will ask you a series of leading questions to trick you out of being eligible for ESA. About a month or 2 after that "assessment" (it is NOT a Medical, the DWP will tell you it IS ), you will receive a letter from a (non - medically qualified DWP "Decision Maker" to tell you that from the "evidence" they receive, (your ESA50 claim form and the Atos "healthcare professional"'s (ESA85) Report - ALWAYS full of BLATANT LIES), you are "fit for work" (meaning ALL types of work) and not entitled to ESA. If your disability/health condition means that you ARE restricted to the kind of work you could physically do within your limitations, you would then have to ask the DWP for a "Reconsideration". Until October, when ESA claims are going for reconsideration, you get paid the assessment rate (£56.60/£71.70 depending on your age) until the reconsideration has taken place AND the appeal Tribunal has been done. After October, NO benefit will be paid while the DWP Decision Maker completes the reconsideration.....which has NO time limit ! (They say you can claim JSA instead, but that goes against you at your Tribunal !). After the reconsideration, you get a letter to say the original "Fit for work" decision has not changed, or that they have decided you ARE entitled to ESA. MOST claims go on to a Tribunal with the HM Courts and Tribunals Service....and it takes MONTHS, or in many cases MORE THAN A YEAR for your case to be heard ! IF the Tribunal Panel (a Judge and a Doctor) change the decision in your favour, it takes AT LEAST 8 weeks (but often a lot more) for the DWP to pay you the FULL rate of ESA (about £100/week) PLUS all of the backdated ESA you should have been paid from the 14th week after you originally made the claim. If you want to find out more about this, there are a number of groups on facebook which supports and advises people who are going through the DWP/ATOS system. Look up " Atos Miracles " on facebook to begin with, then from there, you can find more support groups for chronically sick and disabled benefit claimants.
Good Luck !
(p.s. If I had the choice, I'd rather have my health back and still be with RM instead of being treated like sh*t by Atos & the DWP !)

[Postal Postie II]

Back to work today after a 2 week break. 4 hour duty. No manager in as usual to discuss any thing. By the end I felt like I'd received a heavy kick in the back!

Doctors again in the morning. Don't think I can do it again. :(((