Is this right?......

[Hjones9007]

We have 2 rounds in our office which are both done in a nearby village(about 3 miles away). The two normal round holders live in the village so they take mail out in their cars and do not return.

Now here is my question when it's their day off and I or somebody else covers it. We still have to take our car but because we don't live in the village have to come back.

Is this against rules?

[CLINTEASTWOOD]

Hi
No way do you have to take your car a big no no see your union rep asap

[Hjones9007]

I have asked other staff, they say i have to take it as long as an drops my bags off as I'm not insured on my car? Surely they can't say "take your own car"

[Cowdenpostie]

No using cars on deliveries, you'll find your insurance doesn't cover you anyway - it's upto your Dom to arrange transport/ drop off pouch bags...

[thechemisyshop]

i can see why the duty holders would do it ,,there choice ,, but i would tell them to ram it ,, tell them your car is broken ,, or your wife needs it ,, then see what they do ,, if as a last resort you have to use your motor remember and claim mileage

[monkeymutha]

Six points when the police see you removing mail from the car. And a hefty fine. Don't do it. Managers problem. Speak to rep.

[korky]

1st off, unless you have business insurance you are probably only insured to travel to your delivery office
i was told RM do provide insurance to car users if you provide your own car details, but this only covers their losses, i.e if your car gets written off/broken into only the mail is covered but any damage must be claimed on your insurance.
under EVERY circumstance they must get you out posting using their methods, NOT YOUR CAR!
the others you mentioned do it because its convenient but it could bite them in the arse and the manager will pull the rug from under them

[Lincox]

You should only ever use your car to get to the DO you are based at. Your insurance will cover you for commuting to work. There is probably a reasonable assumption that if the office you have been asked to work at is nearer than your base office, then it is ok to use your car to get there, but not to take it out on delivery. If the office you are asked to work at is further than your base office, then if you are willing to drive to that office you should be paid mileage expenses for the difference in distance, and the difference in travel time there and back should be included within your contracted hours. Again, use of your own vehicle on delivery is a no no. if you are stopped by the police, they have the right to impound your vehicle as you will not be covered by your own insurance and unless you have written evidence that Royal Mail confirm that they are covering your personal vehicle with a bond, Royal Mail will not accept any liability for lawful impounding of your vehicle or any liability in respect of damage to your vehicle or any damage caused to person or property by your vehicle.

[Rudolph_Hucker]

i can see why the duty holders would do it ,,there choice ,, but i would tell them to ram it ,, tell them your car is broken ,, or your wife needs it ,, then see what they do ,, if as a last resort you have to use your motor remember and claim mileage

Sorry but there is no need at all to make up silly excuses why you can't use your car. I appreciate he may find it easier in the short term but in the long term the excuses will run out.

Simple really, say no from the outset and lay down the ground rules. Using cars is not allowed, excuses not needed.

[DGP1]

Fishtank is the man with all the rules but once a revision has been put into your office then the RM bond is withdrawn and you cannot use your car because it wont be insured.

As for the OPs question, no, if you don't want to use your car then you don't have to.............unless RM are paying you for using the vehicle then they cannot insist on you using it.

[Glenno]

I believe this still holds the field

[NewPostieUK]

Now here is my question when it's their day off and I or somebody else covers it. We still have to take our car but because we don't live in the village have to come back.

No, that's not right even before the revision, even if you were fully insured.

You can't (isn't it obvious?) be TOLD to use your car, ever. It's your choice, however misguided.

The manager gets you and the mail to where ever you need to be, and back to the office again afterwards.

[claude]

2 Questions,
1) what do the regular guys do with their 739's, as they don't return to the office
2)why is there 6m points on a license for carrying mail if caught

[TrueBlueTerrier]

2 Questions,
1) what do the regular guys do with their 739's, as they don't return to the office
2)why is there 6m points on a license for carrying mail if caught

1 Answer to No 2- carrying mail is fine if you have correct insurance if you don't:

Driving without insurance is a serious offence which can result in an immediate disqualification from driving. A driving ban can often be in the region of 28 days but can also be substantially longer for repeat offences.

For first offences, the Court would normally impose between 6 and 8 penalty points, but no ban.

There will also be a fine which will vary depending on the circumstances and whether the Defendant was using the vehicle themselves or permitting another person to use the vehicle.

[fishtank]

For first offences, the Court would normally impose between 6 and 8 penalty points, but no ban.

There will also be a fine which will vary depending on the circumstances and whether the Defendant was using the vehicle themselves or permitting another person to use the vehicle.

I think it's now a fixed roadside penalty of £300 and 6 penalty points or the lucky dip of going to court and risking a ban and a fine of up to £5,000.