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SHOCKED AT HOW WIDESPREAD B&H IS !!

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SHOCKED AT HOW WIDESPREAD B&H IS !!

Post by knackeredjointsRUS »

I've only recently joined the forum and I knew B&H wasn't just a local thing but can't get my head round how widespread it really is !! Just reading comments made by other members I've realised that this is a major problem and in my eyes is NOT getting dealt with , I suffered B&H from management on a regular basis for about 18 months you know the usual name calling, performance related issues ( even though there wasn't any ) questioning , and it made me ill and I ended up going off with stress and when I returned back to work was greeted back with a stage 1 warning. This cannot continue so come on union get your act together because somewhere, someone is going to lose it and then finally after that takes place something will be done about it . It's no good giving us flyers and telephone numbers because in my eyes you need to get into the offices and see for yourselves what is really going on in the workplace, or do you already know ??
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Re: SHOCKED AT HOW WIDESPREAD B&H IS !!

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The problem is they have been given sufficient evidence from over 800 posties, but do not have the power or support to bring about change and are quite content to go down the Royal Mail line that individuals should take their personal cases up through the recognised channels and agreements that have been jointly agreed between CWU and Royal Mail. Unfortunately, all of us who have pursued these lines, know too well that Royal Mail does not follow nationally agreed procedures, and fails to accept that there is any form of bullying by it,s managers, and the individual is left to plough a lonely furrow against a company that has no concept of fair play, and cwu reps who quite often try their best, but are also quite often out of their depth.
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Re: SHOCKED AT HOW WIDESPREAD B&H IS !!

Post by knackeredneedadayoff »

The problem is they have been given sufficient evidence from over 800 posties, but do not have the power or support to bring about change and are quite content to go down the Royal Mail line that individuals should take their personal cases up through the recognised channels and agreements that have been jointly agreed between CWU and Royal Mail. Unfortunately, all of us who have pursued these lines, know too well that Royal Mail does not follow nationally agreed procedures, and fails to accept that there is any form of bullying by it,s managers, and the individual is left to plough a lonely furrow against a company that has no concept of fair play, and cwu reps who quite often try their best, but are also quite often out of their depth. :Applause :Applause
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Re: SHOCKED AT HOW WIDESPREAD B&H IS !!

Post by UnhappyGremlin »

Royal Mail are fully aware of the problem, and just how bad it is.
They don't care.
Anyone who raises an issue has their complaint either ignored totally, or has it downgraded to the point where it becomes irrelevant.
Sometimes, I wish I wasn't a Rep.
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Re: SHOCKED AT HOW WIDESPREAD B&H IS !!

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:arrrghhh that's better, I'm so used to banging my head against brick walls I'm almost immune :
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Re: SHOCKED AT HOW WIDESPREAD B&H IS !!

Post by DirtyHarry »

UnhappyGremlin wrote:Royal Mail are fully aware of the problem, and just how bad it is.
They don't care.
Anyone who raises an issue has their complaint either ignored totally, or has it downgraded to the point where it becomes irrelevant.
Very true, I'm sorry to say.
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Re: SHOCKED AT HOW WIDESPREAD B&H IS !!

Post by jack »

Even to bring a claim of Constructive dismissal is a near impossibility these days due to new ET fees, and no way could I see any financial support offered from the union unless they thought the claim was strong enough to pursue.

The working person is basically shafted :thumbdown
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Re: SHOCKED AT HOW WIDESPREAD B&H IS !!

Post by gand »

Wee could all get together and go the the press about it?
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gand wrote:Wee could all get together and go the the press about it?
No need they have come to us now.

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Re: SHOCKED AT HOW WIDESPREAD B&H IS !!

Post by flaminmoses »

gotta be a good way of making bullies be known virally.
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Post by bigtony »

The best way to stop B&H is to stand up for your self in all situations. When u believe you are being bullied just tell them to stop doing what there doing. if they carry on then next time they do what ever it is there doing just get the nearest people to you
to sign off to what happened and go through the b&h helpline. you can get there number all around the work place. Don't do nothing or it will become a life of misery. Any union reps in your office should be helping to prevent B&H and if not then they should't be your choice of representation.
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Re: SHOCKED AT HOW WIDESPREAD B&H IS !!

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bigtony wrote:The best way to stop B&H is to stand up for your self in all situations. When u believe you are being bullied just tell them to stop doing what there doing. if they carry on then next time they do what ever it is there doing just get the nearest people to you
to sign off to what happened and go through the b&h helpline. you can get there number all around the work place. Don't do nothing or it will become a life of misery. Any union reps in your office should be helping to prevent B&H and if not then they should't be your choice of representation.

The above is great in theory,

The reality is something else I'm afraid.
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Re: SHOCKED AT HOW WIDESPREAD B&H IS !!

Post by Shambles »

hantsman wrote:
bigtony wrote:The best way to stop B&H is to stand up for your self in all situations. When u believe you are being bullied just tell them to stop doing what there doing. if they carry on then next time they do what ever it is there doing just get the nearest people to you
to sign off to what happened and go through the b&h helpline. you can get there number all around the work place. Don't do nothing or it will become a life of misery. Any union reps in your office should be helping to prevent B&H and if not then they should't be your choice of representation.

The above is great in theory,

The reality is something else I'm afraid.
Amen to that! Theory v Practise :cuppa
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Re: SHOCKED AT HOW WIDESPREAD B&H IS !!

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The best way to stop B&H is to stand up for your self in all situations. When u believe you are being bullied just tell them to stop doing what there doing. if they carry on then next time they do what ever it is there doing just get the nearest people to you
to sign off to what happened and go through the b&h helpline. you can get there number all around the work place. Don't do nothing or it will become a life of misery. Any union reps in your office should be helping to prevent B&H and if not then they should't be your choice of representation.


The above is great in theory,

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Yes I done that , got me nowhere went thru the B/H procedure again got me nowhere, guess what I am one of the 800 who made contact with CWU headquarters, got a letter finally saying they are taking it up with RM , yes but that don't deal with the situation and it is still going on in my office but metered out to other folks instead :hmmmm

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Re: SHOCKED AT HOW WIDESPREAD B&H IS !!

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music4essex wrote:
The best way to stop B&H is to stand up for your self in all situations. When u believe you are being bullied just tell them to stop doing what there doing. if they carry on then next time they do what ever it is there doing just get the nearest people to you
to sign off to what happened and go through the b&h helpline. you can get there number all around the work place. Don't do nothing or it will become a life of misery. Any union reps in your office should be helping to prevent B&H and if not then they should't be your choice of representation.


The above is great in theory,

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes I done that , got me nowhere went thru the B/H procedure again got me nowhere, guess what I am one of the 800 who made contact with CWU headquarters, got a letter finally saying they are taking it up with RM , yes but that don't deal with the situation and it is still going on in my office but metered out to other folks instead :hmmmm

Essex mum
Since being on here, I've realised How Many Other Colleagues are being bullied too. I pray the CWU address this serious National problem affecting members ASAP, please :wave
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