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summer lapsing is back!!!!

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iamnotadoormat
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summer lapsing is back!!!!

Post by iamnotadoormat »

We had a revision last year which done away with lapsing. Well now it's back!!!! Can't understand how Dom/royal mail get away it......
crammypostie1
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Gender: Male
Location: Cumbria

Re: summer lapsing is back!!!!

Post by crammypostie1 »

thought it was only to be done on days when it was likely your office could cope with it?
Acca Dacca
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Re: summer lapsing is back!!!!

Post by Acca Dacca »

In our office it went like this

Fulltimers given a vote for longs n shorts - start later Mon and Tue and earlier Wed Thur Fri

Fulltimers told if they vote for it then there will be no lapsing and if they vote against it there will

Part timers given no vote at all ( and its a majority PT office as well )

Part timers told it wouldn't effect them

Longs n shorts voted in for ALL ( PT start on a monday at 9.33am for instance and 8.47 on a Thurs etc )

Two weeks later told we will all be lapsing as well

We have all kicked up a stink and rightly so so its been delayed until.....next week?
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
dazzlin72
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Joined: 25 Jan 2010, 13:56
Gender: Male

Re: summer lapsing is back!!!!

Post by dazzlin72 »

We've been doing it for abt 2 mnths now! Supposed to do it until Aug Bank Holiday.
hampshireman
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Re: summer lapsing is back!!!!

Post by hampshireman »

Acca Dacca wrote:In our office it went like this

Fulltimers given a vote for longs n shorts - start later Mon and Tue and earlier Wed Thur Fri

Fulltimers told if they vote for it then there will be no lapsing and if they vote against it there will

Part timers given no vote at all ( and its a majority PT office as well )

Part timers told it wouldn't effect them

Longs n shorts voted in for ALL ( PT start on a monday at 9.33am for instance and 8.47 on a Thurs etc )

Two weeks later told we will all be lapsing as well

We have all kicked up a stink and rightly so so its been delayed until.....next week?
So, you have 'kicked up a stink'... Will that make any difference?
bensonhedge
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Gender: Male

Re: summer lapsing is back!!!!

Post by bensonhedge »

Bring it on!!!
fishtank
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Re: summer lapsing is back!!!!

Post by fishtank »

iamnotadoormat wrote:We had a revision last year which done away with lapsing.

They lied.
No revision will ever do away with lapsing,only reduce your capacity to absorb more workload.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
gary1975
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Joined: 16 Apr 2011, 13:41
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Re: summer lapsing is back!!!!

Post by gary1975 »

how can you have a majority pt office ? :hmmmm
Acca Dacca
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Re: summer lapsing is back!!!!

Post by Acca Dacca »

hampshireman wrote:
Acca Dacca wrote:In our office it went like this

Fulltimers given a vote for longs n shorts - start later Mon and Tue and earlier Wed Thur Fri

Fulltimers told if they vote for it then there will be no lapsing and if they vote against it there will

Part timers given no vote at all ( and its a majority PT office as well )

Part timers told it wouldn't effect them

Longs n shorts voted in for ALL ( PT start on a monday at 9.33am for instance and 8.47 on a Thurs etc )

Two weeks later told we will all be lapsing as well

We have all kicked up a stink and rightly so so its been delayed until.....next week?
So, you have 'kicked up a stink'... Will that make any difference?
Well its already put it back a few weeks and hopefully by the point they get round to trying it then the summer will be done.
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
Acca Dacca
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Re: summer lapsing is back!!!!

Post by Acca Dacca »

gary1975 wrote:how can you have a majority pt office ? :hmmmm
There are a LOT of reserves/floaters/PT duty holders

We have something like 17 full timers and the office has been pretty much kept running due to PTs coming in at 7 and doing 2 hours OT

Something like 8 or 9 FTS have recently been suspended or taken VR and they haven't been replaced, no one has been made up
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If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
clashcityrocker
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Re: summer lapsing is back!!!!

Post by clashcityrocker »

What exactly is the big deal with lapsing?
You start at your start time. You finish at your finish time.
Who cares where you put letters through letter boxes?

So who cares?
People who want to finish early?
People who want to start early so they can get an early finish?
People who are worried their docket will disappear?
People who don't like to say - this is how much work I can do in my contracted hours today?
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
Acca Dacca
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Re: summer lapsing is back!!!!

Post by Acca Dacca »

clashcityrocker wrote:What exactly is the big deal with lapsing?
You start at your start time. You finish at your finish time.
Who cares where you put letters through letter boxes?

So who cares?
People who want to finish early?
People who want to start early so they can get an early finish?
People who are worried their docket will disappear?
People who don't like to say - this is how much work I can do in my contracted hours today?
Our office had been bringing loops back from pretty much day 1 of the revision and all working to our time. We pretty much get spied on and tested constantly almost every day of every week. Who wants to work in those conditions? The managers think the job is a doodle and we are all ripping the piss.
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
windermeredave
EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: summer lapsing is back!!!!

Post by windermeredave »

And you think it will end when summer finishes?..dream on
Acca Dacca
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Re: summer lapsing is back!!!!

Post by Acca Dacca »

windermeredave wrote:And you think it will end when summer finishes?..dream on
Well if we managed to argue that we don't have time in the summer lull why would we have time when it is busy in winter?
Should we sit back and take it? Most of us are out at least 4 hours 15 as it is.
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
bossyb
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Re: summer lapsing is back!!!!

Post by bossyb »

I haven't done any lapsing this summer but I start on time , whereas the twats that start early have got to do it as they have the time
don't they ever learn