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why go o strike?

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kath17265
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why go o strike?

Post by kath17265 »

When people work day off and do overtime day after to clear backlog! !! :no no
teesdale
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Re: why go o strike?

Post by teesdale »

With the rolling strike by function idea backlogs at Bristol Mail Centre were between one and three days behind only in 2009. I think the knock on effect at delivery offices was greater, but is there a better way to increase that tiny backlog in mail centres. Maybe if youre waiting for a hospital appointment letter 3 days is enough. Waiting two weeks for a packet could be survived though.
Rudolph_Hucker
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Re: why go o strike?

Post by Rudolph_Hucker »

kath17265 wrote:When people work day off and do overtime day after to clear backlog! !! :no no
I think you have to accept many cannot provide for their family on say 24 hours a week. Working days off is not a luxury it is a necessity!

Before anybody says ... Then you shouldn't have joined. I asked many posties about how much overtime would be available prior to applying. They, all bar none, said there is always overtime available, we are short of men/women in our office etc.

Now, had I been told there was never any overtime available, you'll only be able to work your contracted hours then I would not have applied for the job. I cannot survive on circa £200 a week take home that a 24 hour week gives me.

If I was on 39 hours a week, that would be different, I would be in a position to refuse to work my day off.
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bogstandard
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Re: why go o strike?

Post by bogstandard »

Rudolph_Hucker wrote:
kath17265 wrote:When people work day off and do overtime day after to clear backlog! !! :no no
I think you have to accept many cannot provide for their family on say 24 hours a week. Working days off is not a luxury it is a necessity!

Before anybody says ... Then you shouldn't have joined. I asked many posties about how much overtime would be available prior to applying. They, all bar none, said there is always overtime available, we are short of men/women in our office etc.

Now, had I been told there was never any overtime available, you'll only be able to work your contracted hours then I would not have applied for the job. I cannot survive on circa £200 a week take home that a 24 hour week gives me.

If I was on 39 hours a week, that would be different, I would be in a position to refuse to work my day off.
you didnt ask the people employing you, and you based your decision not on what your potential employer said but someone who wasn't employing you said ?
I take it you knew what the contract was you were being offered.
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fishtank
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Re: why go o strike?

Post by fishtank »

Working overtime before and after periods of industrial action is not ideal but can help to keep the industrial action solid by reducing the impact of losing pay.

I would rather have some people working overtime than have those same people crossing the picket line or weakening the resolve of others by constantly complaining about losing pay.

It's one of those "big picture" things.
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Re: why go o strike?

Post by baldrick »

I don't know about DOs, but in my MC management didn't allow OT during IA because they said it would be 'rewarding' strike action.
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Re: why go o strike?

Post by Rudolph_Hucker »

bogstandard wrote:
Rudolph_Hucker wrote:
kath17265 wrote:When people work day off and do overtime day after to clear backlog! !! :no no
I think you have to accept many cannot provide for their family on say 24 hours a week. Working days off is not a luxury it is a necessity!

Before anybody says ... Then you shouldn't have joined. I asked many posties about how much overtime would be available prior to applying. They, all bar none, said there is always overtime available, we are short of men/women in our office etc.

Now, had I been told there was never any overtime available, you'll only be able to work your contracted hours then I would not have applied for the job. I cannot survive on circa £200 a week take home that a 24 hour week gives me.

If I was on 39 hours a week, that would be different, I would be in a position to refuse to work my day off.
you didnt ask the people employing you, and you based your decision not on what your potential employer said but someone who wasn't employing you said ?
I take it you knew what the contract was you were being offered.
Sorry but I don't understand what you are saying, could you clarify please?
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bogstandard
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Re: why go o strike?

Post by bogstandard »

Rudolph_Hucker wrote:
bogstandard wrote:
Rudolph_Hucker wrote:
kath17265 wrote:When people work day off and do overtime day after to clear backlog! !! :no no
I think you have to accept many cannot provide for their family on say 24 hours a week. Working days off is not a luxury it is a necessity!

Before anybody says ... Then you shouldn't have joined. I asked many posties about how much overtime would be available prior to applying. They, all bar none, said there is always overtime available, we are short of men/women in our office etc.

Now, had I been told there was never any overtime available, you'll only be able to work your contracted hours then I would not have applied for the job. I cannot survive on circa £200 a week take home that a 24 hour week gives me.

If I was on 39 hours a week, that would be different, I would be in a position to refuse to work my day off.
you didnt ask the people employing you, and you based your decision not on what your potential employer said but someone who wasn't employing you said ?
I take it you knew what the contract was you were being offered.
Sorry but I don't understand what you are saying, could you clarify please?
My apologies i was referencing performing/working overtime.
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Rudolph_Hucker
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Re: why go o strike?

Post by Rudolph_Hucker »

bogstandard wrote:
Rudolph_Hucker wrote:
bogstandard wrote:
Rudolph_Hucker wrote:
kath17265 wrote:When people work day off and do overtime day after to clear backlog! !! :no no
I think you have to accept many cannot provide for their family on say 24 hours a week. Working days off is not a luxury it is a necessity!

Before anybody says ... Then you shouldn't have joined. I asked many posties about how much overtime would be available prior to applying. They, all bar none, said there is always overtime available, we are short of men/women in our office etc.

Now, had I been told there was never any overtime available, you'll only be able to work your contracted hours then I would not have applied for the job. I cannot survive on circa £200 a week take home that a 24 hour week gives me.

If I was on 39 hours a week, that would be different, I would be in a position to refuse to work my day off.
you didnt ask the people employing you, and you based your decision not on what your potential employer said but someone who wasn't employing you said ?
I take it you knew what the contract was you were being offered.
Sorry but I don't understand what you are saying, could you clarify please?
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My apologies i was referencing performing/working overtime.
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Re: why go o strike?

Post by flaminmoses »

Rudolph_Hucker wrote:
bogstandard wrote:
Rudolph_Hucker wrote:
kath17265 wrote:When people work day off and do overtime day after to clear backlog! !! :no no
I think you have to accept many cannot provide for their family on say 24 hours a week. Working days off is not a luxury it is a necessity!

Before anybody says ... Then you shouldn't have joined. I asked many posties about how much overtime would be available prior to applying. They, all bar none, said there is always overtime available, we are short of men/women in our office etc.

Now, had I been told there was never any overtime available, you'll only be able to work your contracted hours then I would not have applied for the job. I cannot survive on circa £200 a week take home that a 24 hour week gives me.

If I was on 39 hours a week, that would be different, I would be in a position to refuse to work my day off.
you didnt ask the people employing you, and you based your decision not on what your potential employer said but someone who wasn't employing you said ?
I take it you knew what the contract was you were being offered.
Sorry but I don't understand what you are saying, could you clarify please?

in a nutshell you took a job knowing your budget would have a shortfall.....overtime is not a fixed part of your wages and should only be viewed as an nice extra (if your willing to work it) , not part of any budget.
DB1100
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Re: why go o strike?

Post by DB1100 »

flaminmoses wrote:
Rudolph_Hucker wrote:
bogstandard wrote:
Rudolph_Hucker wrote:
kath17265 wrote:When people work day off and do overtime day after to clear backlog! !! :no no
I think you have to accept many cannot provide for their family on say 24 hours a week. Working days off is not a luxury it is a necessity!

Before anybody says ... Then you shouldn't have joined. I asked many posties about how much overtime would be available prior to applying. They, all bar none, said there is always overtime available, we are short of men/women in our office etc.

Now, had I been told there was never any overtime available, you'll only be able to work your contracted hours then I would not have applied for the job. I cannot survive on circa £200 a week take home that a 24 hour week gives me.

If I was on 39 hours a week, that would be different, I would be in a position to refuse to work my day off.
you didnt ask the people employing you, and you based your decision not on what your potential employer said but someone who wasn't employing you said ?
I take it you knew what the contract was you were being offered.
Sorry but I don't understand what you are saying, could you clarify please?

in a nutshell you took a job knowing your budget would have a shortfall.....overtime is not a fixed part of your wages and should only be viewed as an nice extra (if your willing to work it) , not part of any budget.
When you are desperate for a job you will clutch at straws,any job is better than no job to a proud person,cut him some slack,it's probably a long time since you were unemployed.
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crammypostie1
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Re: why go o strike?

Post by crammypostie1 »

I think what also bugs people is that FT staff still seem to get all the overtime and work days off whilst PT seem to just get contracted hours.

I remember 07 when we striked, and all those on the picket line hammered the OT before strike to make up for lack of earnings, but there are folk that are just on 20 hrs.

I dont like FT staff on here picking holes in PT arguements about being on smaller hours.

iTS COMMON KNOWLEDE that a FT can afford to strike 2 days, thats minus 16 hours so walk away with 23 HRS whilst PT could be getting just 12.

I dont know if i would strike this time, wife is on maternity leave and have mouths to feed and morgage to pay. Thats my views, and if folk cant understand that my family is my main reason of working and i cant afford to strike then so be it. My family comes first, work collegues come second.

Always have to look after number 1.

Oh and terrier, im not winding folk up here, im giving my honest opinion on my circumstances :thumbup
hans solo
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Re: why go o strike?

Post by hans solo »

wonder what unite will instruct their members (ie pr**s ) to do
cross our picket lines and still want us to support them
do our work all in this together :left:
hampshireman
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Re: why go o strike?

Post by hampshireman »

hans solo wrote:wonder what unite will instruct their members (ie pr**s ) to do
cross our picket lines and still want us to support them
do our work all in this together :left:
As most Managers prep walks ; clear rubbish from the office; take walks / sections out and deliver. Then surely they would be right behind any industrial action? :crazy:
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crammypostie1 wrote: Oh and terrier, im not winding folk up here, im giving my honest opinion on my circumstances :thumbup
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