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privatisation

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dvb077
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privatisation

Post by dvb077 »

What does this mean for the staff??
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Re: privatisation

Post by mandelsons_toenail »

dvb077 wrote:What does this mean for the staff??
It means we are f****d.
dvb077
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Re: privatisation

Post by dvb077 »

Would it mean lower pay or job losses?? As I really need this job and enjoy it.
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Re: privatisation

Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

dvb077 wrote:Would it mean lower pay or job losses?? As I really need this job and enjoy it.
Lower Pay - Not in the next 3 years according to RMS Chain ridden pay offer, but its not protected in law and no doubt any new owners will be looking for savings.

Job Losses - More than likely but then we have lost 50,000 over the last 10 years I predict the same volume in a shorter time scale - mainly managers though.
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boo634
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Re: privatisation

Post by boo634 »

Big problem will be the sell off of all the smaller D O's, asset stripping will be number 1 on there list of things to do B :sad:
DirtyHarry
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Re: privatisation

Post by DirtyHarry »

There is no doubt about it now, we DO have a very uncertain future.

To many, both in private enterprise, and amongst the British public, we are overpaid and underworked.

We were stitched-up good and proper when Liebour opened the door to privatisation of Royal Mail, and even after failing in their attempt, spitefully left the door wide open for the succeeding Tory-led government, knowing full well that people like Cameron, Osbourne, and Cable, would ride rough-shod over any opposition to a keystone objective for the Champions of so-called 'free market' enterprise.

One thing we can all be certain and sure about, is that the rich will get richer. As per.
fishtank
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Re: privatisation

Post by fishtank »

boo634 wrote:Big problem will be the sell off of all the smaller D O's, asset stripping will be number 1 on there list of things to do B :sad:
This is what the right wing think tank The Bow Group think will happen.
Despite them being Tories I actually agree with them,It is given free market forces the only thing that can happen.

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So how exactly can a new owner extract greater value from Royal Mail?

The simple answer is to reduce the services that are non-profitable.

Conveniently the government has carried legislation allowing a new owner to do just that.
The 2011 Postal Services Act allows Ministers to create a special administrative regime to
maintain the universal service obligation. It is highly probably that after a few years, a buyer
will conclude that it can no longer fulfill its legal requirement to undertake its legal
obligations.

It will then simply transfer the rump of its non-profitable business back onto the tax-payer, taking with it the highly profitable urban letter and parcels traffic.

In response the regulator will be tasked with ensuring some form of letter delivery in rural
areas is maintained. Its first act will be to reduce the requirements of the universal service, at a stroke cutting deliveries to rural areas to possibly two or three days a week.

Ofcom will then in turn have to tender contracts on a regional basis to deliver the universal
service obligation with significant taxpayer subsidy. Royal Mail, having exited this particular
market will not want to tender. Rather it would give up elements of its rural infrastructure to the new operators.

A regional network of smaller state subsidised postal operators will then emerge to undertake to maintain the less onerous requirements set by the regulator.

So over a period a time, Royal Mail will go from a state owned, financial success story to a
privately owned business shorn of any obligations to deliver mail where it does not want to.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
grabbertom
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Re: privatisation

Post by grabbertom »

pisses me off getting shares that you cant sell and then they are worth sod all. hope the public dont believe all this crap in the press and shyte coming out off cables :arrrghhh mouth.
RedBagMan
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Re: privatisation

Post by RedBagMan »

Free shares ?? Pro-rata no doubt :roll:
"We're under model" - oh no we're not - stick your lapse elsewhere ...
cyberheater
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Re: privatisation

Post by cyberheater »

If RM is privatised. I've not doubt that the universal service will be slowly killed off over the next 10 years or so. It won't be overnight. Death by a 1000 cuts.
First small rural duties will be done on alternative days. Then small villages etc... Before you know it. the universal service will be gone.

Think of how many ordinary postmen they could get rid of.
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Re: privatisation

Post by Stormproof »

ffs whats up with some of you, there is more to this than seeing f***ing £ signs! :roll:
So keep on moving, moving, moving your feet
Keep on shuf-shuf-shuffling to this ghost dance beat
Just keep on walking down never ending streets


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TheCobra
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Re: privatisation

Post by TheCobra »

Basically privatisation means, say goodbye to a decent living wage, the company bosses will want to pay a good dividend to the shareholders each year so that will come out of the worker's pockets straight away. Say goodbye to good contracts, there will be a slow erosion of all the things that were fought so hard for over the years. Say hello to a more casual, lower paid, less conditions workforce, with bigger rounds and delivering more s**t than ever.
crammypostie1
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Re: privatisation

Post by crammypostie1 »

good job im wanting out
aiden01
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Re: privatisation

Post by aiden01 »

crammypostie1 wrote:good job im wanting out
Hope u get it very quick :wave :wave
crammypostie1
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Re: privatisation

Post by crammypostie1 »

aiden01 wrote:
crammypostie1 wrote:good job im wanting out
Hope u get it very quick :wave :wave
thanks