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asked to take specials/tracked/recorded without pda
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spiderj
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asked to take specials/tracked/recorded without pda
As title states I was asked to take the above without a PDA(goosed)
I was told to take epod card and write it all out
If I copy someone's signature isn't that fraud?
Any advice will be appreciated
I was told to take epod card and write it all out
If I copy someone's signature isn't that fraud?
Any advice will be appreciated
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PhilthyPhil
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Re: asked to take specials/tracked/recorded without pda
It's fine for SD and signed for but tracked should be done using a PDA.
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spiderj
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Re: asked to take specials/tracked/recorded without pda
Thank you-explains why my manager disappeared. 
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Bahia Feliz
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Re: asked to take specials/tracked/recorded without pda
Why would you need to copy someone's signature?
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spiderj
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Re: asked to take specials/tracked/recorded without pda
Manager has previously told us to enter all info-code and signature if PDA goosed
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Himaggen
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Re: asked to take specials/tracked/recorded without pda
I don't understand what you mean by copy someone's signature.
The Customer signs their own name on the EPOD adjacent to the time of delivery.
If used for Special Delivery, the EPOD would need to be returned and scanned back at the office before their 9:00 AM or 1:00 PM deadlines in order not to have failed.
You cannot use EPOD cards for Tracked items because the customer has paid specifically for tracking to doorstep. Without the PDA the Customer is not receiving the service they've paid for.
Additionally, as many Tracked items are 'No Signature Required' there is no Electronic Proof Of Delivery, just proof of arrival at DO.
The Customer signs their own name on the EPOD adjacent to the time of delivery.
If used for Special Delivery, the EPOD would need to be returned and scanned back at the office before their 9:00 AM or 1:00 PM deadlines in order not to have failed.
You cannot use EPOD cards for Tracked items because the customer has paid specifically for tracking to doorstep. Without the PDA the Customer is not receiving the service they've paid for.
Additionally, as many Tracked items are 'No Signature Required' there is no Electronic Proof Of Delivery, just proof of arrival at DO.
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spiderj
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Re: asked to take specials/tracked/recorded without pda
Had been told to enter all info from epod into a working PDA on return to office.
Including any signatures
Including any signatures
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Bahia Feliz
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Re: asked to take specials/tracked/recorded without pda
Ah,that explains it!! That is a definite no no I would say.spiderj wrote:Had been told to enter all info from epod into a working PDA on return to office.
Including any signatures
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Lounge Lizard
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Re: asked to take specials/tracked/recorded without pda
I've never had a PDA but still deliver all specials, recordeds and tracked.

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arnold cheshire
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Re: asked to take specials/tracked/recorded without pda
even the tracked that require a signature ?Sherpas Rule wrote:I get this as well, I often end up as the office sweeper taking out cut off's etc but rarely get a PDA, when I asked about signed for Trackeds the answer was to enter them on to a PDA on return to office.spiderj wrote:Had been told to enter all info from epod into a working PDA on return to office.
Including any signatures
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SP115
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Re: asked to take specials/tracked/recorded without pda
So, If I deliver a Special at 12:50 and get back to the Office for 13:05, It's a fail?Himaggen wrote:
If used for Special Delivery, the EPOD would need to be returned and scanned back at the office before their 9:00 AM or 1:00 PM deadlines in order not to have failed.
Thought these PDA's had 3G on them and sent them strait away like it does for the tracked?
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Himaggen
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Re: asked to take specials/tracked/recorded without pda
I was talking about the EPOD not the PDA. The EPOD Card would need to be scanned back at the office before the deadline in order not to have failed.SP115 wrote:So, If I deliver a Special at 12:50 and get back to the Office for 13:05, It's a fail?Himaggen wrote:
If used for Special Delivery, the EPOD would need to be returned and scanned back at the office before their 9:00 AM or 1:00 PM deadlines in order not to have failed.
Thought these PDA's had 3G on them and sent them strait away like it does for the tracked?
The only way your Office can get away with Tracked Items on an EPOD card is if they are not tracking them to doorstep, (all items must be getting scanned with the GPS location being your Office). I'm surprised you're Managers are getting away with it, but one thing is for sure as soon as a few of these are reported as not delivered and the GPS data is audited someone will be for the high jump!
Anyone manually recreating peoples signatures etc. later on back at the office is on the rocky road to dismissal. Refuse to transfer the data and report the Managers to Moya. You only have to follow a reasonable instruction and that is not reasonable.
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UnhappyGremlin
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Re: asked to take specials/tracked/recorded without pda
No. You can get a signature before the 13.00pm deadline, but the card has to be in the office by between 13.30 to 13.45 (not sure of exact time) at the latest for confirmation. That's the way it's been done in my office forever, the cards are then sent off for the signature to be copied onto the website for customers to view.SP115 wrote:So, If I deliver a Special at 12:50 and get back to the Office for 13:05, It's a fail?Himaggen wrote:
If used for Special Delivery, the EPOD would need to be returned and scanned back at the office before their 9:00 AM or 1:00 PM deadlines in order not to have failed.
Thought these PDA's had 3G on them and sent them strait away like it does for the tracked?
Sometimes, I wish I wasn't a Rep.