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Does diabetes prevent you doing your duty?.

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bakerstreetirregular
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Does diabetes prevent you doing your duty?.

Post by bakerstreetirregular »

Hi. A collegue recently told me in confidence that he's recently been diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes. He's worried that if he tell management they'll try and show him the door (via ATOS). Are there any diabetics out there on delivery at the moment and what are there experiences?.
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bakerstreetirregular wrote:Hi. A collegue recently told me in confidence that he's recently been diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes. He's worried that if he tell management they'll try and show him the door (via ATOS). Are there any diabetics out there on delivery at the moment and what are there experiences?.
My father and brother have diabetes 1 has type 1 and the other type 2 - As exercise is recommend for both types then once he has got the insulin doses and blood sugar level under control then being a Postman may be of benefit rather than a hindrance.

He must tell his manager in case anything happens, hypoglycemic shock etc also it is covered under the accessibility acts to do with employment, and it affects his absences as well, in a good way in that they have to be taken into account and absences caused by his diabetes being normally discounted.

If he is sacked or IHR'd, both unlikely, then he will probably have a good case for unfair dismissal based on disability.
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Re: Does diabetes prevent you doing your duty?.

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Might be worth telling the first aider as well,just to be on the safe side.
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Re: Does diabetes prevent you doing your duty?.

Post by Judgee »

One delivery postman in my office has diabetes, not sure what type but he gets along just fine!
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tigercat
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Re: Does diabetes prevent you doing your duty?.

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Theres at least 5 in my DO who have Diabetes and are on various medication. All seem to do the job well.
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Re: Does diabetes prevent you doing your duty?.

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I have one in my office who injects himself and watches his levels, he's also a body builder so it doesn't restrict you if you learn to live with it.
Everyone knows just in case something happens.
He should inform DOM, Rep & First Aider and anyone he shares a van with to be safe.
It does not stop him from carrying on with his job as normal, just tell him to keep checking his levels.
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Re: Does diabetes prevent you doing your duty?.

Post by capricorn »

I worked with Diabetes for several years with out problems, but in the end it affected my feet, nerve damage & continual blistering.

Maintain regular medical check-ups and watch your diet. Keep the feet clean & dry ( carry fresh socks on duty ) and if RM footware prove a problem try for dispensation to wear proper walking shoes.

In the end other medical problems led me to take IHR :nana
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Re: Does diabetes prevent you doing your duty?.

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no type 2 is all of your own doing and is coverd by no law or act only type 1 is classed as a disability
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demon wrote:no type 2 is all of your own doing and is coverd by no law or act only type 1 is classed as a disability
Bollocks on both counts demon. :roll:

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Diabetes-t ... auses.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Risk factors for type 2 diabetes

You are more likely to develop type 2 diabetes if you:

1.are over 40 years old
2.have a relative with the condition
3.are of South Asian, African-Caribbean or Middle Eastern origin
4.are overweight or obese
Only one of those could be considered "own doing".
And....

http://www.diabetes.org.uk/Guide-to-dia ... imination/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
How does diabetes count as a disability under the Equality Act?
The Equality Act 2010 defines a disability as a 'physical or mental impairment' that has 'a substantial and long-term adverse effect' on an individual’s ability to carry out 'normal day-to-day activities'. A substantial adverse effect is a negative effect that is more than trivial, and the effect is long-term if it has lasted or is expected to last for more than twelve months. It does not matter what the name of the impairment is. If the impairment is caused by a medical condition, it is the effect of the condition when it is not treated that is considered.

The definition of disability in the Equality Act treats each person as an individual, so ultimately only a court or tribunal can decide if a person is covered by the definition. However, in many cases people with diabetes will be covered by this definition of disability. This is because diabetes is a life-long condition and it can seriously affect a person’s ability to do normal day-to-day things. When you are considering whether you are covered by the definition you must think about the effect of your diabetes (without medical treatment) on your day-to-day life. If your diabetes makes it more difficult for you to do day-to-day things you are likely to be covered.
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demon wrote:no type 2 is all of your own doing and is coverd by no law or act only type 1 is classed as a disability
Glad your not my Doctor...... You ever thought of working for the samaritans ...... :left:
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Re: Does diabetes prevent you doing your duty?.

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demon wrote:no type 2 is all of your own doing and is covered by no law or act only type 1 is classed as a disability
well it is covered under the DDA act as it still is called in N.I. or the Equality act 2010

The Disability Discrimination Act (DDA) defines a person with disabilities as someone who has a physical or mental impairment that has a substantial and long-term adverse effect on the ability to carry out normal day-to-day activities. For the purposes of the Act:

substantial means that the effect on the disability is neither minor nor trivial - it does not have to be a severe effect
long-term means that the effect of the impairment has lasted or is likely to last for at least 12 months and the effect must be a detrimental one - a person with a life expectancy of less than twelve months is covered if the effect is likely to last for the whole of that time
normal day-to-day activities include everyday things like eating, washing, walking and going shopping

The person must be affected in at least one of the respects listed in the DDA:

mobility
manual dexterity
physical coordination
continence
ability to lift, carry or otherwise move everyday objects
speech, hearing, or eyesight
memory or ability to concentrate, learn or understand
perception of risk of physical danger

If the effects of the disability are reduced by medication or other treatment then the relevant effects are those that would be present if there was no medication or treatment taking place. There is an exception to this rule for people who wear spectacles or contact lenses - then the relevant effects are those that remain while the spectacles or contact lenses are being used.
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and the most stupid post of the week goes to demon. What a totally mis informed statement. Theres a lot of posties who are diabetic would have found that post most offensive.
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DB1100
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Re: Does diabetes prevent you doing your duty?.

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tigercat wrote:and the most stupid post of the week goes to demon. What a totally mis informed statement. Theres a lot of posties who are diabetic would have found that post most offensive.
Like a lot on here,they engage keyboard before brain.
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Re: Does diabetes prevent you doing your duty?.

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No.
I work with a couple of lads who have it and they do fine.
As long as the manager is informed and it's in the employees file for obvious reasons.

They did make one or two tweaks to duties to facilitate them being able to maintain their health, i.e. so they could check their sugar levels etc.

Though one person did try and use the fact they were diabetic to have their duty ring fenced, didn't work though.
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demon wrote:no type 2 is all of your own doing and is coverd by no law or act only type 1 is classed as a disability

:roll: The Mongiest comment of the year goes to....



I have worked with Diabetics, both types they do ok also whatever type they are they both can be affected by unstable blood sugar, genetics can play a part as well as family history, so its not all lifestyle, with exercise and weight loss program, it can be controlled nut its not toatally eliminated.
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