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Resource meetings

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mandelsons_toenail
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Resource meetings

Post by mandelsons_toenail »

Anyone have them?

My Dom recently has became agitated with my stance in these, in that if he has any proposals for the office, I then ask for it in writing, feedback to the members, get their view, a yes or no if required, then get back to the Dom with an answer.

He seems to think, I should make a snap decision there and then.

Surely the point of a rep is to represent and put members views across, not be a one man decision maker!

:cuppa
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Re: Resource meetings

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somethings you can discuss without speaking to members as you already have all the information to talk about it, ie lapsing plans, your office will have an agreed model week traffic and depending by how much above or below that you will be able to agree to what days lapsing may be done, you dont need to get members agreement on that prior to every meeting as they have already agreed the model week traffic and you will be able to see clearly on the spot if there is scope for lapsing or if not
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Re: Resource meetings

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Interesting.

I may jack it in tbh.

Getting more bad than good.

f**k it

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Re: Resource meetings

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You surely have a mandate from your members to decide some things.
If he shows you the staffing for next week, surely you don't take it away and discuss it with all your members and then come back with an answer?

What sort of things does he want snap decisions on?
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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Re: Resource meetings

Post by mandelsons_toenail »

Hours changes for staff
Lapsing
Absorbing

All that s**t

Give it time to bed in..... :cuppa

I just say no as of this week and throw in a disagreement :shock:

Best way
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Re: Resource meetings

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mandelsons_toenail wrote:Hours changes for staff
Lapsing
Absorbing

All that s**t

Give it time to bed in..... :cuppa

I just say no as of this week and throw in a disagreement :shock:

Best way
not really best way, if the figures support the possibility of lapsing then its not really appropriate to put in an official disagreement regardless, you might end up getting one correctly lodged about yourself, you really should ask someone like another rep in your office who seems to know what he is doing what you should or shouldnt be doing in a resource meeting
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Re: Resource meetings

Post by mandelsons_toenail »

:whistle

Believe me if you had to work with my Dom you'd understand.

Our mail figures are pure fantasy, the Dom and linos can tell me we will lapse 1000 jobs but when reality is far different from the "mails down" figures I will say no and stick by the members, when I have no spare time, but the Dom, iwt, planner, Ronald McDonald and moya say I have time to absorb, I won't believe a word that comes out of their mouths.

Underhand, lying, sneaky bunch of bastards. All of them, and you can quote me on that.

See you on the gate
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Re: Resource meetings

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mandelsons_toenail wrote::whistle

Believe me if you had to work with my Dom you'd understand.

Underhand, lying, sneaky bunch of bastards. All of them, and you can quote me on that.
but the figures are there in black and white, if your disagreeing to lapse when it is appropriate to do so then your leaving yourself wide open to him

and dont forget lapsing is also for your staffs benefit, if appropriate it can free up extra annual leave spaces for someone to get a week in the summer
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Re: Resource meetings

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mandelsons_toenail wrote::whistle

Believe me if you had to work with my Dom you'd understand.

Our mail figures are pure fantasy, the Dom and linos can tell me we will lapse 1000 jobs but when reality is far different from the "mails down" figures I will say no and stick by the members, when I have no spare time, but the Dom, iwt, planner, Ronald McDonald and moya say I have time to absorb, I won't believe a word that comes out of their mouths.

Underhand, lying, sneaky bunch of bastards. All of them, and you can quote me on that.

See you on the gate

Free up and extra slot, don't make me laugh, we don't even have enough holiday slots to get our time in.

More chance of seeing my Dom do a full delivery than see another holiday slot appear.

f**k them

I've already proven his figures are up to 30% light, and the planning values seem a little "stretched"

My 4.5 hour delivery takes near 6@ model week, yet planned for 4.5@model

All pie in the sky, :cuppa

In fact he can stick his lapsing in his pipe and smoke it, sue me
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Re: Resource meetings

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mandelsons_toenail wrote:
Our mail figures are pure fantasy,
Then ask for a manual count.
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Re: Resource meetings

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clashcityrocker wrote:
mandelsons_toenail wrote:
Our mail figures are pure fantasy,
Then ask for a manual count.
I have on many occasions

Not enough time or resources comes the answer.

Odd that
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Re: Resource meetings

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Then that is what your disagreement is over.
Get your Area Rep to support you.

And if there is time to lapse, then one day of no lapsing will provide you with the resources to manually count the mail.
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Re: Resource meetings

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mandelsons_toenail wrote: we don't even have enough holiday slots to get our time in.
Again why agree to not having enough holiday slots? its simple math when holiday sheet went out count total number of slots and the total entitlement for your office and if it dont add up then get the area rep involved

mandelsons_toenail wrote: the planning values seem a little "stretched"
but you signed off on them in the revision, why sign the revision off if the values were stretched?
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Re: Resource meetings

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zx135 wrote:
mandelsons_toenail wrote: we don't even have enough holiday slots to get our time in.
Again why agree to not having enough holiday slots? its simple math when holiday sheet went out count total number of slots and the total entitlement for your office and if it dont add up then get the area rep involved


Currently in his hands
mandelsons_toenail wrote: the planning values seem a little "stretched"
but you signed off on them in the revision, why sign the revision off if the values were stretched?
What I mean is, the routes are impossible in time given using model week traffic.

On paper things look rosy, on the street they look f****d

Hence cut offs in our office every day :cuppa
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Re: Resource meetings

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mandelsons_toenail wrote:
zx135 wrote:
mandelsons_toenail wrote: we don't even have enough holiday slots to get our time in.
Again why agree to not having enough holiday slots? its simple math when holiday sheet went out count total number of slots and the total entitlement for your office and if it dont add up then get the area rep involved


Currently in his hands
mandelsons_toenail wrote: the planning values seem a little "stretched"
but you signed off on them in the revision, why sign the revision off if the values were stretched?
What I mean is, the routes are impossible in time given using model week traffic.

On paper things look rosy, on the street they look f****d

Hence cut offs in our office every day :cuppa
the model week traffic is mainly about indoor time and how long it will take your office to sort mail indoors before you go out, its not that thats making the outdoor element not work (yes the traffic figure will have a bearing on the outdoor timespan but not to the degree your making it out to be) and again thats down to you, and i believe from your posts you had about 5 months full time release to help with the revision.......