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Summer savings and absorption post revision

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Summer savings and absorption post revision

Post by mandelsons_toenail »

:cuppa

Pre empting my Dom here, but I have it on good authority that our recently implemented revision, which incidentally is failing and costing money, is now subject to the dsm, wanting savings for the summer......

I have already laughed at the Dom and said no chance but I have a meeting in a few weeks regarding it.

Am I correct in thinking the cwu want us to go straight to disagreement over any outdoor saving, once a methods revision has gone in?

Our duties have all been optimised by the wonder tools :cuppa :left:
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Re: Summer savings and absorption post revision

Post by fishtank »

No.
There should be no new budgetary savings plans agreed but absorption/lapsing is not budgetary.
Post revision you should not be lapsing above model traffic.
You should not be lapsing if it affects QofS.

If there is no agreement on pay and related issues by May 13th the union has requested units to withdraw from absorbing workload from that date.
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Re: Summer savings and absorption post revision

Post by DGP1 »

fishtank wrote:
If there is no agreement on pay and related issues by May 13th the union has requested units to withdraw from absorbing workload from that date.
How's that going to work? If you have the time then I think it would be very difficult to say no without putting yourself in a position which could result in someone getting (at least) conducted.
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Re: Summer savings and absorption post revision

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DGP1 wrote:How's that going to work?
Not entirely sure DGP.
All I know is that it was part of an amendment to the motion carried at the Postal Policy forum.
I'm sure the details will be worked out in due course and disseminated to the plebs but to me that would constitute Industrial Action which would require a ballot.
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Re: Summer savings and absorption post revision

Post by DGP1 »

fishtank wrote:
DGP1 wrote:How's that going to work?
Not entirely sure DGP.
All I know is that it was part of an amendment to the motion carried at the Postal Policy forum.
I'm sure the details will be worked out in due course and disseminated to the plebs but to me that would constitute Industrial Action which would require a ballot.
That's what I think and we'd better be prepared to start losing money over it.
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Re: Summer savings and absorption post revision

Post by aiden01 »

Would,nt it be great if we had a union that actually told it,s members whats going on cwu has to be worst named union ever :crazy:
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Re: Summer savings and absorption post revision

Post by ronpetetrevchris »

aiden01 wrote:Would,nt it be great if we had a union that actually told it,s members whats going on cwu has to be worst named union ever :crazy:
lol
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Re: Summer savings and absorption post revision

Post by dvbuk55 »

As I understand it the revision model week comes into play when lapsing - the problem arises when it's a blanket lapsing every day for weeks on end.
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Re: Summer savings and absorption post revision

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If everybody came in at their proper start time and used the correct equipment lapsing would be a thing of the past.
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Re: Summer savings and absorption post revision

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DB1100 wrote:If everybody came in at their proper start time and used the correct equipment lapsing would be a thing of the past.
No it wouldn't.
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Re: Summer savings and absorption post revision

Post by RTP »

I for one would be willing to not have a pay rise this year if a deal could be reached whereby it meant the end of lapsing forever.

Ain't gonna happen though.
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Re: Summer savings and absorption post revision

Post by dvbuk55 »

RTP wrote:I for one would be willing to not have a pay rise this year if a deal could be reached whereby it meant the end of lapsing forever.

Ain't gonna happen though.
Easy! Out comes the Joint Statement "Lapsing is Finished" followed a week later with another agreed Joint Statement "Summertime Cooperation" pretty much agreeing that any excess work will be carried out during normal working hours :cuppa Problem solved! :chuckle :chuckle
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Re: Summer savings and absorption post revision

Post by clashcityrocker »

It doesn't matter what you call it.
Work all your paid hours seems an alien concept to so many.
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Re: Summer savings and absorption post revision

Post by DB1100 »

clashcityrocker wrote:
DB1100 wrote:If everybody came in at their proper start time and used the correct equipment lapsing would be a thing of the past.
No it wouldn't.
There would be no time to lapse.
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Re: Summer savings and absorption post revision

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DB1100 wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:
DB1100 wrote:If everybody came in at their proper start time and used the correct equipment lapsing would be a thing of the past.
No it wouldn't.
There would be no time to lapse.
So if your model week was set at 50 000 and on a quiet Tuesday over the summer the traffic is 18 000, there wouldn't be time to lapse?
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.