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nepotism
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nipteltupe
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
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nepotism
Hello there,
Is there any official policy on nepotism within Royal Mail?
The Mail Centre Manager's wife's son (Bilbo)has recently been employed on a part-time contract. It's 27 hours and he came in after having been appearing regularly with agency-staff. One other agency worker was employed too.
Bilbo didn't start off tipping bags like most new starters and generally does nicer jobs. He is a hard worker too.
Lately Bilbo has been seen working in the personnel office on 9 hours overtime a day before his normal part-time duty.
It turns out Bilbo is being trained to work in the personnel department. The person he is learning the job off is apparently 'not liked' by the clique in personnel.
It's maybe just a pure coincidence that Bilbo has been taken under the wing of his step-dad and ended up in personnel by accident.
But I never heard of any job opportunity being advertised. Any ideas will be very helpful. I've got nothing against Bilbo but I hate seeing this unfair treatment. There are no opportunities or perks in our office unless you're part of the clique.
Is there any official policy on nepotism within Royal Mail?
The Mail Centre Manager's wife's son (Bilbo)has recently been employed on a part-time contract. It's 27 hours and he came in after having been appearing regularly with agency-staff. One other agency worker was employed too.
Bilbo didn't start off tipping bags like most new starters and generally does nicer jobs. He is a hard worker too.
Lately Bilbo has been seen working in the personnel office on 9 hours overtime a day before his normal part-time duty.
It turns out Bilbo is being trained to work in the personnel department. The person he is learning the job off is apparently 'not liked' by the clique in personnel.
It's maybe just a pure coincidence that Bilbo has been taken under the wing of his step-dad and ended up in personnel by accident.
But I never heard of any job opportunity being advertised. Any ideas will be very helpful. I've got nothing against Bilbo but I hate seeing this unfair treatment. There are no opportunities or perks in our office unless you're part of the clique.
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glenfiddich
- Posts: 1012
- Joined: 03 Oct 2007, 13:15
Re: nepotism
its not what you know but who you know 
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jmcg
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
- Posts: 147
- Joined: 14 Jul 2010, 15:50
- Gender: Male
Re: nepotism
seems to happen at most mail centres i am afraid,always helpful if you are a younger attractive female too! and obviously if you are a close relative of a manager then you are virtually guaranteed to get a contract...fact. 
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dvbuk55
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 16650
- Joined: 02 Jun 2007, 19:17
- Gender: Male
Re: nepotism
Do you know something if that happened where I work and I don't work in a mail centre, I wouldn't waste my time posting on here - I would walk up to the manager and ask him if there was a vacancy in the role that Bilbo is being trained on and if there is you would like to apply and if there isn't then you would need to speak to the rep about - NEPOTISM - it's a well known word and I'm sure he'll know precisely what you're talking about.
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Puppetmaster
- Posts: 440
- Joined: 03 Oct 2008, 19:56
- Gender: Male
Re: nepotism
Happens in Delivery offices too and not just Managers ,relatives of CWU officials get treated different to others ,very favourably.
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olilew
- Posts: 594
- Joined: 19 May 2010, 22:04
- Gender: Male
Re: nepotism
this was the first thing i noticed when i joined RM. nepotism is rife throughout RM not just mail centres but delivery offices as well, jobs, holidays, duties etc.
"Just take it out and see how you go......."
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dvbuk55
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 16650
- Joined: 02 Jun 2007, 19:17
- Gender: Male
Re: nepotism
Right and so the answer is?olilew wrote:this was the first thing i noticed when i joined RM. nepotism is rife throughout RM not just mail centres but delivery offices as well, jobs, holidays, duties etc.
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Cliff Clavin
- Posts: 184
- Joined: 25 Aug 2008, 21:29
- Gender: Male
Re: nepotism
dvbuk55 wrote:Right and so the answer is?olilew wrote:this was the first thing i noticed when i joined RM. nepotism is rife throughout RM not just mail centres but delivery offices as well, jobs, holidays, duties etc.
Join the family.
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dvbuk55
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 16650
- Joined: 02 Jun 2007, 19:17
- Gender: Male
Re: nepotism
Cliff Clavin wrote:dvbuk55 wrote:Right and so the answer is?olilew wrote:this was the first thing i noticed when i joined RM. nepotism is rife throughout RM not just mail centres but delivery offices as well, jobs, holidays, duties etc.
Join the family.
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UnhappyGremlin
- Posts: 2685
- Joined: 18 May 2012, 20:49
- Gender: Male
- Location: Hiding
Re: nepotism
I'm pretty sure it happens up and down the country.
We have a new starter (about 6 weeks into job), on a 20 hour contract. His dad is a locker supervisor, and he has done between 20 and 40 hours O/T every week since arriving, and many others have suffered as a result. Apparently, he was the only person they 'could get hold of'.
There is also another person who get shown more favouritism than anyone I've ever seen, they get any job going to cover that has allowances, O/T ( they are PT) they book whenever they want to any level, when we ask if the duty they're currently doing will be advertised....we are told not to say anything, as we may 'find ourselves on the wrong end of a B&H complaint'.
And they wonder why we're all pissed off.
We have a new starter (about 6 weeks into job), on a 20 hour contract. His dad is a locker supervisor, and he has done between 20 and 40 hours O/T every week since arriving, and many others have suffered as a result. Apparently, he was the only person they 'could get hold of'.
There is also another person who get shown more favouritism than anyone I've ever seen, they get any job going to cover that has allowances, O/T ( they are PT) they book whenever they want to any level, when we ask if the duty they're currently doing will be advertised....we are told not to say anything, as we may 'find ourselves on the wrong end of a B&H complaint'.
And they wonder why we're all pissed off.
Sometimes, I wish I wasn't a Rep.
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dvbuk55
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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- Joined: 02 Jun 2007, 19:17
- Gender: Male
Re: nepotism
Why? It's not a controversial question and is relevant to every members right to work overtime - what's the rep doing about it?UnhappyGremlin wrote:I'm pretty sure it happens up and down the country.
We have a new starter (about 6 weeks into job), on a 20 hour contract. His dad is a locker supervisor, and he has done between 20 and 40 hours O/T every week since arriving, and many others have suffered as a result. Apparently, he was the only person they 'could get hold of'.![]()
There is also another person who get shown more favouritism than anyone I've ever seen, they get any job going to cover that has allowances, O/T ( they are PT) they book whenever they want to any level, when we ask if the duty they're currently doing will be advertised....we are told not to say anything, as we may 'find ourselves on the wrong end of a B&H complaint'.And they wonder why we're all pissed off.
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UnhappyGremlin
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- Joined: 18 May 2012, 20:49
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- Location: Hiding
Re: nepotism
We don't have a Rep, and the area Rep is the managers mate. It doesn't matter what anyone says, if it involves this particular person, even as in this case, totally innocently i.e. we're not having a go at them or anything, merely asking when/if a vacant duty will be advertised, and not even mentioning them at all, we are always warned if we don't stop we're for it.dvbuk55 wrote:Why? It's not a controversial question and is relevant to every members right to work overtime - what's the rep doing about it?UnhappyGremlin wrote:I'm pretty sure it happens up and down the country.
We have a new starter (about 6 weeks into job), on a 20 hour contract. His dad is a locker supervisor, and he has done between 20 and 40 hours O/T every week since arriving, and many others have suffered as a result. Apparently, he was the only person they 'could get hold of'.![]()
There is also another person who get shown more favouritism than anyone I've ever seen, they get any job going to cover that has allowances, O/T ( they are PT) they book whenever they want to any level, when we ask if the duty they're currently doing will be advertised....we are told not to say anything, as we may 'find ourselves on the wrong end of a B&H complaint'.And they wonder why we're all pissed off.
Sometimes, I wish I wasn't a Rep.
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fishtank
- Posts: 19732
- Joined: 28 Sep 2007, 17:22
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Re: nepotism
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Relatives cannot work in roles where effective supervision would be compromised, or would create a perception of compromise. This extends to any relationships of a personal nature. Any potential conflict situations like these must be reported to your manager or the appropriate Senior HR Manager
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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nipteltupe
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
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- Joined: 18 Apr 2013, 08:13
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Re: nepotism
Ah - very good and the code of conduct is helpful too. Thanks.fishtank wrote:https://www.myroyalmail.com/sites/defau ... ct2012.pdf
Relatives cannot work in roles where effective supervision would be compromised, or would create a perception of compromise. This extends to any relationships of a personal nature. Any potential conflict situations like these must be reported to your manager or the appropriate Senior HR Manager
If you are still unsure about the right thing to do, talk to your manager, HR Services, or report the matter using the Speak Up process by calling 0800 097 1131 or visiting http://www.intouchfeedback.com/royalmail" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.