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silver_fox
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Post by silver_fox »

It's happening again in our office, overtime listed down not getting paid in full.

Come next week, several hours missing.

Manager saying if you don't sign out the time you leave for delivery then they will cross out the overtime.

If you do forget to sign out on your way out then you come back and they put X X in the box where you should have signed.

But what has this got to do with being paid for overtime you have done?

If you sign in , in the morning, and out when you go home surely that is enough to prove you have done the overtime?
hampshireman
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Post by hampshireman »

silver_fox wrote:It's happening again in our office, overtime listed down not getting paid in full.

Come next week, several hours missing.

Manager saying if you don't sign out the time you leave for delivery then they will cross out the overtime.

If you do forget to sign out on your way out then you come back and they put X X in the box where you should have signed.

But what has this got to do with being paid for overtime you have done?

If you sign in , in the morning, and out when you go home surely that is enough to prove you have done the overtime?
It has nothing to do with OT payment. Just your Manager trying it on. Challenge him/her and ask for in writing.

If I have ever had this type of issue I've just said 'fine - you owe me two hours , I'll be finishing two hours early today'. Case closed.
Silly Sarah
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Location: wild west

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Post by Silly Sarah »

This is theft. Report him to your area rep. In the meantime I would refuse to do any o/t and let him sort out the mess.
What have I done to deserve this?
crammypostie1
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Location: Cumbria

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Post by crammypostie1 »

manager has got a point you should sign out when u leave office, school boy error :no no
worktotime
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Post by worktotime »

silver_fox wrote:It's happening again in our office, overtime listed down not getting paid in full.

Come next week, several hours missing.

Manager saying if you don't sign out the time you leave for delivery then they will cross out the overtime.

If you do forget to sign out on your way out then you come back and they put X X in the box where you should have signed.

But what has this got to do with being paid for overtime you have done?

If you sign in , in the morning, and out when you go home surely that is enough to prove you have done the overtime?
weve had this as well but the dom was writing your finishing time down when you hand your keys in. the times where never right and you was having to argue on a sat when it came to put your docket down, so my words was get a clocking machine no arguments then so I said keep it , I take all my break , use trolleys , work my hours end of story.
Speedmeister
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Post by Speedmeister »

I've had this too - linos excuse "I haven't got enough hours". More like "if I pay you I'll get a smaller bonus".
They take the profits, you take the blame
When they tell you there's no rise in pay
hans solo
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Post by hans solo »

worktotime wrote:
silver_fox wrote:It's happening again in our office, overtime listed down not getting paid in full.

Come next week, several hours missing.

Manager saying if you don't sign out the time you leave for delivery then they will cross out the overtime.

If you do forget to sign out on your way out then you come back and they put X X in the box where you should have signed.

But what has this got to do with being paid for overtime you have done?

If you sign in , in the morning, and out when you go home surely that is enough to prove you have done the overtime?
weve had this as well but the dom was writing your finishing time down when you hand your keys in. the times where never right and you was having to argue on a sat when it came to put your docket down, so my words was get a clocking machine no arguments then so I said keep it , I take all my break , use trolleys , work my hours end of story.
should be taking breaks and using trolly regardless
hatetheboss
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Post by hatetheboss »

crammypostie1 wrote:manager has got a point you should sign out when u leave office, school boy error :no no
Yes, you should sign out when you leave the office for delivery, but You have a start time and finish time any hours worked prior to your start time, or after your finish time is overtime and should be paid regardless whether you sign out on your delivery.

crammy you are obviously perfect apart from the
They are coming to take us away
Stella102
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Post by Stella102 »

this is theft at the highest degree - it is also bullying and harassment which is rife up and down the country and becoming common in every workplace. Contact your union rep then work up the ladder. Also if you want to s**t your manager up then ask for his/her address and say you need for for a small claims court or for a police report : reason - theft.
UnhappyGremlin
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Post by UnhappyGremlin »

hatetheboss wrote:
crammypostie1 wrote:manager has got a point you should sign out when u leave office, school boy error :no no
Yes, you should sign out when you leave the office for delivery, but You have a start time and finish time any hours worked prior to your start time, or after your finish time is overtime and should be paid regardless whether you sign out on your delivery.

crammy you are obviously perfect apart from the
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As for the OP's problem, signing out is totally unrelated to payment of O/T. They can counsel you for failing to sign in/out, and further down the Conduct Code if you persist in failing to sign in/out. But using it to avoid paying O/T, it's just plain WRONG.

Ask for it in writing, to see relevant agreement, see your Rep. When he fails to show you/prove that he can do as he has been, ask him to reimburse your O/T, if he refuses, GRIEVANCE. Have a witness (Rep preferably, if not someone you trust) to all conversations, and diarise the process.

Your manager - what a TWAT.
Sometimes, I wish I wasn't a Rep.
demon
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Post by demon »

what if your asked to come in 1 hour early on to then you finish 30 mins early can they say they will only pay you 30 mins of the to you were asked to come in and do before your start time
Stella102
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Post by Stella102 »

demon wrote:what if your asked to come in 1 hour early on to then you finish 30 mins early can they say they will only pay you 30 mins of the to you were asked to come in and do before your start time
well you normally claim the 1 hour extra (i.e. 06:00 - 07:00) however if you finsih 30 mins early you can't just go home unless manager says so. There is always work to be done like cleaning vans etc..
north london driver
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Post by north london driver »

any manager who does not pay your overtime.

ask your manager why you have not been paid your overtime it could be a mistake.
if your manager comes out with you owe him time or he has not got the hours to pay you.

ring up the i.b and say your manager is fiddling the overtime dockets.
remember there is always a manager waiting to stab another manager in the back.