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Get rid of senior staff

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hantsman
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Re: Get rid of senior staff

Post by hantsman »

crammypostie wrote:Sorry for being a pain but im a worker of many years and wy i see it problem lays with senior staff. Staff that take 5 hours to do a delivery when i see reserves doing same duty in half the time. I see new starters working more efficent than older workers yet older workers get first pick on duties etc. Not fair is it? Wrong system i say. Im not the fastest worker, but way i see it, in 20 years time royal mail will be better as i know the up and coming workers we have are better than the ones in place now.

Weed out the older guys and bring in the new is what i say :funneh

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hatetheboss
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Re: Get rid of senior staff

Post by hatetheboss »

Have you had a revision Crammy? If so what is the length of your walks. If they are 4-5 hours long and the new ones finish in half the time, there must be a reason for this.
1 Coming in early
2 Not taking a break
3 working above average speed
4 Cutting corners whilst out on delivery
etc etc

No one has a walk that is 2 1/2 hours long anymore, a slight exaggeration me thinks. ;liar
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fishtank
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Re: Get rid of senior staff

Post by fishtank »

crammypostie wrote:way i see it, in 20 years time royal mail will be better as i know the up and coming workers we have are better than the ones in place now.
The new starts are exactly the same as the new starts were 10 years ago which were the same as the new starts we had 20 years ago.
They haven't suddenly built a new breed of up and coming new start.

What happens with a new start is the gradual realisation over time that the promise they made to themselves that this was only a short term filler job has been broken and that they had better start protecting both the job and their body if they hope to keep either for the long term..

Of course there are exceptions to the rule,some never learn and continue to chase time until something gives..usually with a pop.
Stupid is as stupid does etc....
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
midegarelu
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Re: Get rid of senior staff

Post by midegarelu »

crammypostie wrote:
Weed out the older guys and bring in the new is what i say :funneh

When your body has done 20 years or more and your over 55 revisit this comment and weed yourself out!
The Labour party ( I normally vote Tory or UKIP) has fought for the rights of the working man for over 100 years and comments like this are ammunition for management to bully the weaker (physically) members of society.
20 years (10 even) I could run rings round most people but time and work abuse takes it's toll.
What happens to all these "senior" people you propose to let go, I can tell you they will sit on the dole or take their pension whilst you run round ever faster in order to pay for us to sit at home with our feet up.
Try thinking with your head instead instead of the other end you might enjoy the change!
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parcelboy
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Re: Get rid of senior staff

Post by parcelboy »

was it crammy.Or was it a dom(failed postman) sounds to me you have all the attributes for a dom
Budfrog
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Re: Get rid of senior staff

Post by Budfrog »

This has got to be a wind up.
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Re: Get rid of senior staff

Post by UnhappyGremlin »

I think someone is trolling. But still....

As has been mentioned above, do 20 years in all weathers, day in day out, then tell me senior guys are slow. We were all (well nearly all) like that when we first started.

But time, treatment, disillusionment and a whole host of other things has battered any enthusiasm I had for this job out of me a long time ago. I come in, do my job and go home, and in between, I laugh at the newbies running themselves ragged for a boss and company that really couldn't give 2 f***s if we lived or died, and when I do die, will use the opportunity to do nothing more than replace me with some poor unfortunate on less money, give them more work, who will then look at someone like you and call you old, lazy and a piss taker. Despite the fact that, if it wasn't for people like us, doing our jobs right and protecting them for ingrates like you, you may not even have a job.

And, one other thing, many senior guys would be perfectly willing to leave because they've had enough of this company and upstarts like you, give them a decent VR/EVR pay off and you wouldn't see them for dust. Then your workload will go up again, and we can complain our mail deliveries are getting even later. :wave
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Groundpounder
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Re: Get rid of senior staff

Post by Groundpounder »

UnhappyGremlin wrote:I think someone is trolling. But still....

As has been mentioned above, do 20 years in all weathers, day in day out, then tell me senior guys are slow. We were all (well nearly all) like that when we first started.

But time, treatment, disillusionment and a whole host of other things has battered any enthusiasm I had for this job out of me a long time ago. I come in, do my job and go home, and in between, I laugh at the newbies running themselves ragged for a boss and company that really couldn't give 2 f***s if we lived or died, and when I do die, will use the opportunity to do nothing more than replace me with some poor unfortunate on less money, give them more work, who will then look at someone like you and call you old, lazy and a piss taker. Despite the fact that, if it wasn't for people like us, doing our jobs right and protecting them for ingrates like you, you may not even have a job.

And, one other thing, many senior guys would be perfectly willing to leave because they've had enough of this company and upstarts like you, give them a decent VR/EVR pay off and you wouldn't see them for dust. Then your workload will go up again, and we can complain our mail deliveries are getting even later. :wave
Can't put it better myself thought the same thing.
Wiggins79
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Re: Get rid of senior staff

Post by Wiggins79 »

UnhappyGremlin wrote:I think someone is trolling. But still....

As has been mentioned above, do 20 years in all weathers, day in day out, then tell me senior guys are slow. We were all (well nearly all) like that when we first started.

But time, treatment, disillusionment and a whole host of other things has battered any enthusiasm I had for this job out of me a long time ago. I come in, do my job and go home, and in between, I laugh at the newbies running themselves ragged for a boss and company that really couldn't give 2 f***s if we lived or died, and when I do die, will use the opportunity to do nothing more than replace me with some poor unfortunate on less money, give them more work, who will then look at someone like you and call you old, lazy and a piss taker. Despite the fact that, if it wasn't for people like us, doing our jobs right and protecting them for ingrates like you, you may not even have a job.

And, one other thing, many senior guys would be perfectly willing to leave because they've had enough of this company and upstarts like you, give them a decent VR/EVR pay off and you wouldn't see them for dust. Then your workload will go up again, and we can complain our mail deliveries are getting even later. :wave
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Re: Get rid of senior staff

Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

crammypostie wrote:Sorry for being a pain but im a worker of many years and wy i see it problem lays with senior staff. Staff that take 5 hours to do a delivery when i see reserves doing same duty in half the time. I see new starters working more efficent than older workers yet older workers get first pick on duties etc. Not fair is it? Wrong system i say. Im not the fastest worker, but way i see it, in 20 years time royal mail will be better as i know the up and coming workers we have are better than the ones in place now.

Weed out the older guys and bring in the new is what i say :funneh
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Re: Get rid of senior staff

Post by spoodoo »

I'm 92 and I still give the young uns a run for their money you know !
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Re: Get rid of senior staff

Post by arnold cheshire »

crammypostie wrote:Sorry for being a pain but im a worker of many years and wy i see it problem lays with senior staff. Staff that take 5 hours to do a delivery when i see reserves doing same duty in half the time. I see new starters working more efficent than older workers yet older workers get first pick on duties etc. Not fair is it? Wrong system i say. Im not the fastest worker, but way i see it, in 20 years time royal mail will be better as i know the up and coming workers we have are better than the ones in place now.

Weed out the older guys and bring in the new is what i say :funneh
go away senior staff are loyal and do the job PROPERLY
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Re: Get rid of senior staff

Post by Grinder64 »

crammypostie wrote:Sorry for being a pain but im a worker of many years and wy i see it problem lays with senior staff. Staff that take 5 hours to do a delivery when i see reserves doing same duty in half the time. I see new starters working more efficent than older workers yet older workers get first pick on duties etc. Not fair is it? Wrong system i say. Im not the fastest worker, but way i see it, in 20 years time royal mail will be better as i know the up and coming workers we have are better than the ones in place now.

Weed out the older guys and bring in the new is what i say :funneh
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Re: Get rid of senior staff

Post by arnold cheshire »

Grinder64 wrote:
crammypostie wrote:Sorry for being a pain but im a worker of many years and wy i see it problem lays with senior staff. Staff that take 5 hours to do a delivery when i see reserves doing same duty in half the time. I see new starters working more efficent than older workers yet older workers get first pick on duties etc. Not fair is it? Wrong system i say. Im not the fastest worker, but way i see it, in 20 years time royal mail will be better as i know the up and coming workers we have are better than the ones in place now.

Weed out the older guys and bring in the new is what i say :funneh
April 1st falls on Monday... :cuppa
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Re: Get rid of senior staff

Post by Pat Ostman »

fishtank wrote:
crammypostie wrote:way i see it, in 20 years time royal mail will be better as i know the up and coming workers we have are better than the ones in place now.
The new starts are exactly the same as the new starts were 10 years ago which were the same as the new starts we had 20 years ago.
They haven't suddenly built a new breed of up and coming new start.

What happens with a new start is the gradual realisation over time that the promise they made to themselves that this was only a short term filler job has been broken and that they had better start protecting both the job and their body if they hope to keep either for the long term..

Of course there are exceptions to the rule,some never learn and continue to chase time until something gives..usually with a pop.
Stupid is as stupid does etc....
Brilliant post.
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