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Have your say survey!

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ROSSCO
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Have your say survey!

Post by ROSSCO »

We have been given our have your say surveys to fill in and return. We are only a small office but like most other offices have had loads of s**t put on us.
As an office we have tried to put our points across, but it has gone on deaf ears.The union have also been an absolute waste of time as well.
If the whole office does'nt send any of them back will it flag it up higher up?
We have a deputy dom who has just started to listen and start implementing changes that is good for the office but he is now off after 2 months and we get about our 6th manager in a year. Is there a protocol if none are returned?
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hans solo
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Post by hans solo »

try a public burning of hys forms
eastie
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Post by eastie »

just take it, say you are going to fill it in at home and then bin it
chrisj
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Post by chrisj »

Yes, it will be flagged up. Our manager wants a high return... I wanted to send off mine by post but was refused. But was told we have to stay and fill in during WTLL but we do not have to write anything...

So the best form of protest is to collectively have 'no opinion' - send them back blank - that should also be flagged up without individual or collective recriminations.
RoyalSlave69
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Post by RoyalSlave69 »

How does not sending your form get attention? If you fill it out and highlight any problems by using the form then....you get the attention needed. Get all your guys to highlight problems by using the form.
chickenwittle
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Post by chickenwittle »

yeah cos that has made a big difference in previous years.
eastie
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Post by eastie »

they're more interested in a high turnout, they give you a prepaid envelope so tell your DOM you are filling it in at home.
The DOM's are being pressured from above to get them filled in, that was from the horses mouth
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Post by DGP1 »

Don't fill them in, nothing ever gets done when you do fill them in so you may as well not.
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Post by maisymoo04 »

We done ours in the office on fri when the snow was bad :whistle few the lads just drew c@@@ on thers. How childish :whistle :whistle :nervous :nervous :nervous
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Post by POSTMAN »

Write an email to Moya justsayit@royalmail.com make it as constructive as possible and get the whole office involved and their names in it.
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knackeredneedadayoff
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Post by knackeredneedadayoff »

The survey funnily enough fits the floor of the budgie cage just the same as the courier.
malcolm3011
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Post by malcolm3011 »

RoyalSlave69 wrote:How does not sending your form get attention? If you fill it out and highlight any problems by using the form then....you get the attention needed. Get all your guys to highlight problems by using the form.
Yes but even when the forms have been filled out RM never takes any notice of them anyway so what is the point, just a propoganda exercise, last 3 years i have filled out these forms and highlighted all the problems in our office and nationaly but has anything changed....NO! :evil/mad
hampshireman
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Post by hampshireman »

It is important to fill in the forms.. If you do and a patern forms then at least there is some hope (maybe not much).. but if you ignore; then what happens.

You moan that nothing changes .. but you have done nothing to affect the outcome
UnhappyGremlin
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Post by UnhappyGremlin »

I always fill my form in. But, as others have said, nothing ever happens. At least if no one returns them, it does get flagged up and some attention is paid to the office/department in question. Take the last one I did, there were recurring themes flagged, a total of 4. So, my manager did some paperwork, put up notices, and said these particular issues would be addressed within 4 weeks. That was in June last year. And putting up notices is as far as he got. Zero has happened since then. We haven't even discussed any of it during WTLL sessions.

There was one instance, however, when something did happen as a result of these surveys. A few years ago, can't remember exactly when, my unit hit a target/alarm on bullying & harrassment, so a dedicated team came in. We were to be interviewed, and we assured that the culprit would be dealt with. They did about 10 or 12 interviews, about a third of my unit, and the same name cropped up every time. The DOM. And guess what. They left, it was swept under the carpet, and nothing has happened at all. If that had been an OPG, they would have been suspended and disciplined, probably sacked, within 2 weeks. And they wonder why they have such a low response rate. I don't know if I'll bother this time.

What they truly want, is for us to fill in the surveys, but only in a positive manner :left: so they can say they're doing all they can to involve us, without actually having to put any effort into dealing with the, quite serious, issues we raise.
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worktotime
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Post by worktotime »

DGP1 wrote:Don't fill them in, nothing ever gets done when you do fill them in so you may as well not.
to right total waste of time ,never did it and folded my up and gave him it back.