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Manager allowed to do this???

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combo
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Manager allowed to do this???

Post by combo »

Union rep told us manager has been goin round taking photos off vans parked at their home? My argument is some runs esp rurals don't have a restroom. I know by law it's ok to take photos in public. But surely this is all time low. 15 years in the job never been thought off!! Thoughts n opinions please?? :cuppa
itllnottouchyou
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Re: Manager allowed to do this???

Post by itllnottouchyou »

wots this job coming to when you cant nip in home for the toilet without your DIM sneaking about taking photos? especially with the workload ever increasing. its like your being Papped!!!! :crazy:
fishtank
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Re: Manager allowed to do this???

Post by fishtank »

When i started i thought the guy who trained me delivered to his own house because we always stopped there for a cup of tea.
Things have changed and personally i wouldn't go near my house during working hours.
If my duty didn't have welfare facilities i'd go back to the D.O....much safer that way.

Can they take photos?
Probably but it's a bit childish.
If they have a point to make they should make it and stop acting like an immature James Bond.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
chooch
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Re: Manager allowed to do this???

Post by chooch »

within the past couple of months it's been mentioned about using the vans to get home for lunch-breaks :confused
..if someone could refresh/bump that post and provide some agreement to back-it up I'd be grateful..

Ta EverSo
parcelboy
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Re: Manager allowed to do this???

Post by parcelboy »

Its called building a "Conduct Case" against you .Just in case you put a Greivance in.Be very careful sounds like the DOM i used to have devious corrupt lying T***. Culling staff just for the record.I did something similar at a customers house ,a disgruntled neighbour (Victor Meldrew) rang in and complained i had been their fo x amount of time .Following day suspended .Dismissed 6 weeks later For yes that old chesnut "Wilful Delay" be warned i had20 yrs service clean record. :evil/mad
somerset
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Re: Manager allowed to do this???

Post by somerset »

combo wrote:Union rep told us manager has been goin round taking photos off vans parked at their home? My argument is some runs esp rurals don't have a restroom. I know by law it's ok to take photos in public. But surely this is all time low. 15 years in the job never been thought off!! Thoughts n opinions please?? :cuppa
:sad: I know of several drivers who used to go back to the office before there duty ends and were sent out again doing the excess parcels ! Now instead they go home in the van , and then return to the office 15 mins before duty ends !!!
UnhappyGremlin
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Re: Manager allowed to do this???

Post by UnhappyGremlin »

I would advise that going home, in an RM van , during duty hours, is a big no no. Years ago, you could get away with it, but these days, with things the way they are, the fact that they are now looking to cut staff, it's asking for trouble, and you would be, essentially, giving them the rope with which they can and will hang you. Just don't do it, if you need the toilet, and there are no public ones nearby (which these days is ever more likely), go back to the office. It is up to the planners to search out and put toilet stops in the duties, if they have failed in this and your manager hasn't corrected the 'oversight', they really have no right of complaint when your only recourse is to return to the office. Though they will have a go at you. Like it's your fault.
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combo
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Re: Manager allowed to do this???

Post by combo »

I understand ur points boys n girls. In what what read by law if u have more more than 2 photos of you then it's classed as harassment!!! I might be wrong it could be a scam to make you worry n not do it wi rumours on the workplace. Who knows!! I don't know about everyone else's office but If u ur do your hours n leave stuff out which is is the case recently u are bullied in a way that you are ignored in a nutshell (mind games) by management. By the way we are spoke to like dogs n school children in the 1970s when we have announcements. Can't wait for have your say!!!!
dvbuk55
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Re: Manager allowed to do this???

Post by dvbuk55 »

We had a postman who was going home to waste time and lets not use the old "I was just going to the loo" crap - in this case he was driving the van into the garage and closing the door - he was let go. In this current climate there is no way I would be going home, going off route, wasting time, shopping or any other excuse they could find to make a case against me. You're always going to get the smartarse who thinks they are bomb proof and I would say you reap what you sow.

Some years ago a colleague of mine picked up a speeding ticket in a town several miles from his delivery route and his excuse was he was Christmas shopping - nothing was said except "you shouldn't be doing that". Another colleague was picking up the Christmas turkeys for us from a farm, the road was icy, the van skidded and overturned in a field - they are both still employed now! Had either incident happened today neither would be working for RM. This isn't the family friendly employer of a decade or so ago, it's a predatory monster waiting for the careless or unwary dropping the ball.
daveyeff
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Re: Manager allowed to do this???

Post by daveyeff »

fishtank wrote:When i started i thought the guy who trained me delivered to his own house because we always stopped there for a cup of tea.
Things have changed and personally i wouldn't go near my house during working hours.
If my duty didn't have welfare facilities i'd go back to the D.O....much safer that way.

Can they take photos?
Probably but it's a bit childish.
If they have a point to make they should make it and stop acting like an immature James Bond.
if they want to sack you for going home early and they want evidence they'll do it. they collared a driver at ours a couple of months back. sat outside his house for half an hour before knocking on his door.
justdeno
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Re: Manager allowed to do this???

Post by justdeno »

Why don't we just do it to them. We all know where they live, and as we know they never work their hours. How could they defend themselves.? :Very Happy The worm that turned and that :Very Happy
motch
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Re: Manager allowed to do this???

Post by motch »

combo wrote:Union rep told us manager has been goin round taking photos off vans parked at their home? My argument is some runs esp rurals don't have a restroom. I know by law it's ok to take photos in public. But surely this is all time low. 15 years in the job never been thought off!! Thoughts n opinions please?? :cuppa
if there are young children around phone up police and say someone is taking photos and they roared off. Give the police a description.
chooch
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Re: Manager allowed to do this???

Post by chooch »

motch wrote:
combo wrote:Union rep told us manager has been goin round taking photos off vans parked at their home? My argument is some runs esp rurals don't have a restroom. I know by law it's ok to take photos in public. But surely this is all time low. 15 years in the job never been thought off!! Thoughts n opinions please?? :cuppa
if there are young children around phone up police and say someone is taking photos and they roared off. Give the police a description.
'That number once again.. 101' :cuppa
dvbuk55
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Re: Manager allowed to do this???

Post by dvbuk55 »

chooch wrote:
motch wrote:
combo wrote:Union rep told us manager has been goin round taking photos off vans parked at their home? My argument is some runs esp rurals don't have a restroom. I know by law it's ok to take photos in public. But surely this is all time low. 15 years in the job never been thought off!! Thoughts n opinions please?? :cuppa
if there are young children around phone up police and say someone is taking photos and they roared off. Give the police a description.
'That number once again.. 101' :cuppa
Now then, now then :cool
daveyeff
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Re: Manager allowed to do this???

Post by daveyeff »

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