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losing your duty - first dibs on a vacancy?
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themailman
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losing your duty - first dibs on a vacancy?
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Pat Ostman
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Re: losing your duty - first dibs on a vacancy?
Vacant duties will normally go on seniority of any applicants.
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silly suffolk
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Re: losing your duty - first dibs on a vacancy?
youve been displaced. unless theres a full office resign you will get 1st pick of vacancies if you are the most senior displaced person.themailman wrote:can anyone tell me if this is the case?
to allow a shift pattern change, your full time duty is selected to go part time. However, at the same time 3 full time vacancies are posted. Should/would you get priority on these 3 duties? thanks
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Re: losing your duty - first dibs on a vacancy?
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Re: losing your duty - first dibs on a vacancy?
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Pat Ostman
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Re: losing your duty - first dibs on a vacancy?
Yes if he has not been displaced.themailman wrote:so, does my 'displaced' status get me priority over someone who already has a duty for more than 6 months? or am i still bottom of the pile? thanks for your replysilly suffolk wrote:youve been displaced. unless theres a full office resign you will get 1st pick of vacancies if you are the most senior displaced person.themailman wrote:can anyone tell me if this is the case?
to allow a shift pattern change, your full time duty is selected to go part time. However, at the same time 3 full time vacancies are posted. Should/would you get priority on these 3 duties? thanks
If he has he must be more senior AND apply.
Run, rabbit run. Dig that hole, forget the sun.
And when at last the work is done. Don't sit down, it's time to dig another one
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themailman
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Re: losing your duty - first dibs on a vacancy?
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silly suffolk
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Re: losing your duty - first dibs on a vacancy?
if you are the only displaced person you will have 1st pick on all vac's. duties can can be left vacant for a max of 6 month's, so someone may have been on a vacancie for 6 month's without having picked it.themailman wrote:so, does my 'displaced' status get me priority over someone who already has a duty for more than 6 months? or am i still bottom of the pile? thanks for your replysilly suffolk wrote:youve been displaced. unless theres a full office resign you will get 1st pick of vacancies if you are the most senior displaced person.themailman wrote:can anyone tell me if this is the case?
to allow a shift pattern change, your full time duty is selected to go part time. However, at the same time 3 full time vacancies are posted. Should/would you get priority on these 3 duties? thanks
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Pat Ostman
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Re: losing your duty - first dibs on a vacancy?
What if you have been on a vacant duty over a year, does it get signed to you? Got this question in another thread but you seem to know your stuff.silly suffolk wrote:if you are the only displaced person you will have 1st pick on all vac's. duties can can be left vacant for a max of 6 month's, so someone may have been on a vacancie for 6 month's without having picked it.themailman wrote:so, does my 'displaced' status get me priority over someone who already has a duty for more than 6 months? or am i still bottom of the pile? thanks for your replysilly suffolk wrote:youve been displaced. unless theres a full office resign you will get 1st pick of vacancies if you are the most senior displaced person.themailman wrote:can anyone tell me if this is the case?
to allow a shift pattern change, your full time duty is selected to go part time. However, at the same time 3 full time vacancies are posted. Should/would you get priority on these 3 duties? thanks
Run, rabbit run. Dig that hole, forget the sun.
And when at last the work is done. Don't sit down, it's time to dig another one
And when at last the work is done. Don't sit down, it's time to dig another one
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silly suffolk
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Re: losing your duty - first dibs on a vacancy?
ive heard the arguement for being given a duty if you have performed it over a year but havent personally seen it myself. all the answers are in the way forward agreement, resourcing section, which you can find on this site.Pat Ostman wrote:What if you have been on a vacant duty over a year, does it get signed to you? Got this question in another thread but you seem to know your stuff.silly suffolk wrote:if you are the only displaced person you will have 1st pick on all vac's. duties can can be left vacant for a max of 6 month's, so someone may have been on a vacancie for 6 month's without having picked it.themailman wrote:so, does my 'displaced' status get me priority over someone who already has a duty for more than 6 months? or am i still bottom of the pile? thanks for your replysilly suffolk wrote:youve been displaced. unless theres a full office resign you will get 1st pick of vacancies if you are the most senior displaced person.themailman wrote:can anyone tell me if this is the case?
to allow a shift pattern change, your full time duty is selected to go part time. However, at the same time 3 full time vacancies are posted. Should/would you get priority on these 3 duties? thanks
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themailman
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Re: losing your duty - first dibs on a vacancy?
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silly suffolk
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Re: losing your duty - first dibs on a vacancy?
way forward agreement.themailman wrote:excellent. what i thought, and also what i wanted to hear. my cwu rep thought i was talking nonsense thoughsilly suffolk wrote:if you are the only displaced person you will have 1st pick on all vac's. duties can can be left vacant for a max of 6 month's, so someone may have been on a vacancie for 6 month's without having picked it.themailman wrote:so, does my 'displaced' status get me priority over someone who already has a duty for more than 6 months? or am i still bottom of the pile? thanks for your replysilly suffolk wrote:youve been displaced. unless theres a full office resign you will get 1st pick of vacancies if you are the most senior displaced person.themailman wrote:can anyone tell me if this is the case?
to allow a shift pattern change, your full time duty is selected to go part time. However, at the same time 3 full time vacancies are posted. Should/would you get priority on these 3 duties? thankshe said he will maybe ask his senior in the next day or so. my manager is likely to go on the union reps advice though. is this likey to be in the national agreement document??
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themailman
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Re: losing your duty - first dibs on a vacancy?
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silly suffolk
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Re: losing your duty - first dibs on a vacancy?
all the best. i hope you get treated fairly.themailman wrote:thank you very very much. made my weekendsilly suffolk wrote:way forward agreement.themailman wrote:excellent. what i thought, and also what i wanted to hear. my cwu rep thought i was talking nonsense thoughsilly suffolk wrote:if you are the only displaced person you will have 1st pick on all vac's. duties can can be left vacant for a max of 6 month's, so someone may have been on a vacancie for 6 month's without having picked it.themailman wrote:so, does my 'displaced' status get me priority over someone who already has a duty for more than 6 months? or am i still bottom of the pile? thanks for your replysilly suffolk wrote:youve been displaced. unless theres a full office resign you will get 1st pick of vacancies if you are the most senior displaced person.themailman wrote:can anyone tell me if this is the case?
to allow a shift pattern change, your full time duty is selected to go part time. However, at the same time 3 full time vacancies are posted. Should/would you get priority on these 3 duties? thankshe said he will maybe ask his senior in the next day or so. my manager is likely to go on the union reps advice though. is this likey to be in the national agreement document??
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fishtank
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Re: losing your duty - first dibs on a vacancy?
THE WAY FORWARD
Maybe we were wrong,really don't care,we'll still do it that way,to me it seems fairer.
Having said all that we've always given any displaced members first shot at any vacancies.Where a full time post is advertised internally, it will be available to all full time employees and part time employees, who have opted for full time employment, in that resourcing unit. The posts will be filled on the basis of “most senior individual”. Where a part time post is advertised internally, it will be available to all employees as above and filled in the same way.
5 6 The resulting vacancy will be temporarily filled by a reserve, a surplus employee, a transferee from within the wider resourcing area or another resourcing area or by direct recruitment in line with the process above. When the number of consequential vacancies in the resourcing unit reaches 5%, or after a period of six months following the last such exercise (if earlier), the posts will be advertised in the resourcing unit, en bloc and filled on the basis of seniority. If this results in any further vacancies, these will be filled, using the same process as above.
Maybe we were wrong,really don't care,we'll still do it that way,to me it seems fairer.
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