Bullying is Acceptable In RM

[peterloo]

A number of cases of Bullying have been put through the formal process within Royal Mail. A high level of these complaints have not been upheld because the victims of the bullying were considered to have work level performance issue's therefore making the mistreatment acceptable within our modernised industry. BULLYING IS ALLOWED!

[teesdale]

Yes bullying by a manager is acceptable in Royal Mail as the only way some of them can communicate with postmen. They know no other way and senior management have known it for at least 15 years. At our pit complaints of bullying against managers or postmen are not allowed and seem to disappeer with brush off and time lag techniques. Only way to decrease bullying would now be to reduce those managers through psycometric testing, give those left more to occupy their day, give more trust and responsiblity to postmen increasing status and respect.

[Budfrog]

Bullying and personal performance are two distinctly different issue and one can never be allowed to justify the other. We know there is a culture of B&H in Royal Mail, both CWU and Royal Mail senior management are aware of it but still nothing is done save a little lip service to improve working practises that belong in the 19th century.

We have said it on other threads, now is the time to publicly show this organisation for what it is and try and get an independent study into the problems.

My own gut feeling says get an ePetition going, it won't reach 100k but with will show that a problem DOES exist.

[parcelboy]

even human resources are Bullys tipping off managers when you try and get a greivance heard it actually cost me my job as the then management idiots ganged up on me .The bit that confuses me is that they were all moved after my case had been to ET .Job done bonus paid moved house bought new car even stuck his initials on plate .Yes RM condon bullying and reward the A********.Which makes "Moya and her a** wipes responsible (vicarious liability).Also worth a read is this corrupt companys policy on Bribery and Corruption .Hypocritical F******.

[Wessex]

People often make the mistake in bullying cases that they will get a fair hearing,they almost certainly won't and HR's job is to protect the company not to help the aggrieved. My advice to anyone who wishes to put a grievance in is to have solid diarised evidence , believable and articulate witnesses and the realisation that you may not achieve the end result that you seek.The whole process is also very stressful and is not to be taken lightly.

[hans solo]

take it out of workplace and charge those involved it is a criminal offence and should be treated as such.
get the police involved

[Budfrog]

People often make the mistake in bullying cases that they will get a fair hearing,they almost certainly won't.

Why ... because in the vast majority of cases the investigating manager knows the manger under scrutiny and in the case of Mail centres he often works in the same building. There should be a team of trained independent investigators attached to HR or contracted in on an ad-hoc basis when needed and the sytem needs to be transparent.

[dvbuk55]

The strange thing is a few years ago bullying and harassment was the "in" thing - there was diversity training and a huge campaign on bullying in the workplace - the target being one employee on another - now roll forward a few years when bullying and harassment is once again a topic BUT it has now become less important on the agenda and the reason being.............it now involves managers and a management regime which uses just that very tactic to run the business.

[General Mannerheim]

even human resources are Bullys tipping off managers when you try and get a greivance heard it actually cost me my job as the then management idiots ganged up on me .The bit that confuses me is that they were all moved after my case had been to ET .Job done bonus paid moved house bought new car even stuck his initials on plate .Yes RM condon bullying and reward the A********.Which makes "Moya and her a** wipes responsible (vicarious liability).Also worth a read is this corrupt companys policy on Bribery and Corruption .Hypocritical F******.

I agree two ET cases up here and both times the manager has been promoted after RM lost the case.In fact here they have not even removed any of them.
Union says it can't do anything because the bully boy `is good at his job`. WTF?????????????

[WHITEANT]

In our office we had a HAVE YOUR SAY and we were asked certain questions .One of the questions was about the line manager ,a High percentage of returns classed the line manager as a bully .In the have your say survey there is a safety net so to say if there was a high percentage of returns saying there was bullying then the PO would investigate . The PO sent an investagating officer (ex line manager)!!!! ,we were brought into groups and asked what was going on .So all the lads said there bit and there was over whelming evidence that bullying was going on .We asked what would happen ,they said they would investigate AND REPORT BACK THERE FINDINGS ,years passed bye nothing. One of the lads bumped into this investagating officer and asked him/her ,i thought you were coming back to us and report your findings .The person didnt answer and just walked off that says it all ,yet if a postman bullys his feet wouldnt touch the ground

[dvbuk55]

In our office we had a HAVE YOUR SAY and we were asked certain questions .One of the questions was about the line manager ,a High percentage of returns classed the line manager as a bully .In the have your say survey there is a safety net so to say if there was a high percentage of returns saying there was bullying then the PO would investigate . The PO sent an investagating officer (ex line manager)!!!! ,we were brought into groups and asked what was going on .So all the lads said there bit and there was over whelming evidence that bullying was going on .We asked what would happen ,they said they would investigate AND REPORT BACK THERE FINDINGS ,years passed bye nothing. One of the lads bumped into this investagating officer and asked him/her ,i thought you were coming back to us and report your findings .The person didnt answer and just walked off that says it all ,yet if a postman bullys his feet wouldnt touch the ground

Ah yes, lip service - the easiest service to provide and RM do it so well - look how they manage to bamboozle the CWU time after time.

[flaminmoses]

if they dont have good reason to "have a go" then bullying is a form of stalking.

if they says its performance related then they should go down the testign route and counselling route.

if they just constantly dig each day and ignore the procedures in place how can they justify their actions.

stalking carries a spell in her majesties btw.

[Budfrog]

if they dont have good reason to "have a go" then bullying is a form of stalking ...... stalking carries a spell in her majesties btw.

Bullying in the workplace and stalking are completely different offences, stalking is a criminal offence whilst bullying and harassment being unlawful under the Equality Act 2010.

This guide makes an interesting read ... maybe a few senior RM managers should look at it!

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[flaminmoses]

and can be held personally liable if the person who has been harassed undertakes legal proceedings

[flaminmoses]

harassment is not where performance standards are managed fairly

so if they dont test you and counsel you for "being too slow" it is harrasment.