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Shorter Working Week - LTB will be issued tomorrow afternoon
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Geezer
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Shorter Working Week - LTB will be issued tomorrow afternoon
From: Hayley Nutley <HNutley@cwu.org>
To: Hayley Nutley <HNutley@cwu.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 23 January 2013, 16:19
Subject: SWW
Dear Colleagues,
We met with Royal Mail today and have identified that they are not prepared to even consider our members being able to bank the time even though we believe that there clearly are instances where banking would be more beneficial. The meeting closed at 3pm this afternoon and there is no resolution. Therefore our previously issued advice on this matter still stands. The indications are that they will impose the Shorter Working Week on Monday if they cannot get a consensus in the office on the options they are putting forward. Any attempt to introduce any change without agreement of the Rep and the members should be met with disagreement. Those disagreements should be forwarded immediately to the Divisional Representative and Outdoor Department.
A more detailed LTB will be issued tomorrow afternoon.
Bob Gibson
Assistant Secretary
To: Hayley Nutley <HNutley@cwu.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 23 January 2013, 16:19
Subject: SWW
Dear Colleagues,
We met with Royal Mail today and have identified that they are not prepared to even consider our members being able to bank the time even though we believe that there clearly are instances where banking would be more beneficial. The meeting closed at 3pm this afternoon and there is no resolution. Therefore our previously issued advice on this matter still stands. The indications are that they will impose the Shorter Working Week on Monday if they cannot get a consensus in the office on the options they are putting forward. Any attempt to introduce any change without agreement of the Rep and the members should be met with disagreement. Those disagreements should be forwarded immediately to the Divisional Representative and Outdoor Department.
A more detailed LTB will be issued tomorrow afternoon.
Bob Gibson
Assistant Secretary
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hampshireman
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Re: Shorter Working Week - LTB will be issued tomorrow after
Geezer wrote:From: Hayley Nutley <HNutley@cwu.org>
To: Hayley Nutley <HNutley@cwu.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 23 January 2013, 16:19
Subject: SWW
Dear Colleagues,
We met with Royal Mail today and have identified that they are not prepared to even consider our members being able to bank the time even though we believe that there clearly are instances where banking would be more beneficial. The meeting closed at 3pm this afternoon and there is no resolution. Therefore our previously issued advice on this matter still stands. The indications are that they will impose the Shorter Working Week on Monday if they cannot get a consensus in the office on the options they are putting forward. Any attempt to introduce any change without agreement of the Rep and the members should be met with disagreement. Those disagreements should be forwarded immediately to the Divisional Representative and Outdoor Department.
A more detailed LTB will be issued tomorrow afternoon.
Bob Gibson
Assistant Secretary
Been told today that the SSW will be in on Monday. (does not affect me as I am on 30 hrs)
A suprise to all.
What is the 'banking hours ' issue?
Thanks
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DGP1
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Re: Shorter Working Week - LTB will be issued tomorrow after
I thought they needed 28 days before they could force in any change 
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dvbuk55
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Re: Shorter Working Week - LTB will be issued tomorrow after
I thought they needed to honour agreementsDGP1 wrote:I thought they needed 28 days before they could force in any change
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Cut Off King
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Re: Shorter Working Week - LTB will be issued tomorrow after
Yet again RM has managed to string out talks with the CWU until the last minute,
Then do as they wish with the members,
And the CWU plays catch-up
A deadline of 28 days BEFORE the 28th Jan should have been set by the CWU, thus giving the CWU time to formulate a response.
Too Little To Late springs to mind
Then do as they wish with the members,
And the CWU plays catch-up
A deadline of 28 days BEFORE the 28th Jan should have been set by the CWU, thus giving the CWU time to formulate a response.
Too Little To Late springs to mind
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DGP1
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Re: Shorter Working Week - LTB will be issued tomorrow after
Not the first time for usdvbuk55 wrote:I thought they needed to honour agreementsDGP1 wrote:I thought they needed 28 days before they could force in any changeLooks like we've both had our pants down
I'm preparing myself for the zombie invasion, rule number 1 - Cardio
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dvbuk55
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Re: Shorter Working Week - LTB will be issued tomorrow after
DGP1 wrote:Not the first time for usdvbuk55 wrote:I thought they needed to honour agreementsDGP1 wrote:I thought they needed 28 days before they could force in any changeLooks like we've both had our pants down
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Hitcher
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Re: Shorter Working Week - LTB will be issued tomorrow after
What's a Shorter Working Week?
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superteamu10
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Re: Shorter Working Week - LTB will be issued tomorrow after
Our DOM is away this week thankfully as she just makes things 100% worse. However, even with the cover DOM who at least tries to talk to you properly it was impossible to see where we could have our hour off.
We haven't been through delivery methods yet and probably won't be for 6 months or more, so I think banking the hours would be the only way.
When you write down all the times and see when you are supposed to leave the office with the 15 mins taken off 4 days or any permutation, I can't see how it can be done.
Initially it was just a case of having the time earlier or at the end on 4 days as Saturday wasn't an option as there's even less time to give away then, but then as I say nothing looks possible apart from being given a day off every 8 weeks.
We haven't been through delivery methods yet and probably won't be for 6 months or more, so I think banking the hours would be the only way.
When you write down all the times and see when you are supposed to leave the office with the 15 mins taken off 4 days or any permutation, I can't see how it can be done.
Initially it was just a case of having the time earlier or at the end on 4 days as Saturday wasn't an option as there's even less time to give away then, but then as I say nothing looks possible apart from being given a day off every 8 weeks.
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Glenno
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Re: Shorter Working Week - LTB will be issued tomorrow after
SWW don't mean jack, same amount of work in 12 mins less per day
unless you are a P/T where your hourly rate goes up of course
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hampshireman
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Re: Shorter Working Week - LTB will be issued tomorrow after
I am eternally gratefull for my P/T wage going up.Glenno wrote:SWW don't mean jack, same amount of work in 12 mins less per day![]()
unless you are a P/T where your hourly rate goes up of course
Does not the F/T wage go up?
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clashcityrocker
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Re: Shorter Working Week - LTB will be issued tomorrow after
No. The hourly rate goes up but the wage remains the same.hampshireman wrote:
Does not the F/T wage go up?
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Hitcher
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Re: Shorter Working Week - LTB will be issued tomorrow after
Can someone please explain what this is all about?
Is it the same as when FT's hours dropped from 40 to 39, and if so isn't this a good thing?
Is it the same as when FT's hours dropped from 40 to 39, and if so isn't this a good thing?
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: Shorter Working Week - LTB will be issued tomorrow after
No - it is when FTs drop from 40 to 39 - not everyone has yet - so the theory may be a good thing but as usual the practice in action is a different story entirely.Hitcher wrote:Can someone please explain what this is all about?
Is it the same as when FT's hours dropped from 40 to 39, and if so isn't this a good thing?
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Re: Shorter Working Week - LTB will be issued tomorrow after
Letter to Branches
No. 000/2013
Ref: 0000
Date: 24th January 2013
All Postal Branches
All Divisional Representatives
All Regional Organisers
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Anybody i've missed
Bob
Dear Colleagues
Royal Mail management really are taking the piss.
Don't agree to anything.
Any enquiries in relation to this LTB should be addressed to POSTMAN,SITE ADMINISTRATOR
, e-mail: Susan@royalmailchat.org quoting Bob Gibson's famous "wave it" speech.
Yours sincerely
Fish
Nobody
No. 000/2013
Ref: 0000
Date: 24th January 2013
All Postal Branches
All Divisional Representatives
All Regional Organisers
All LGV Representatives
All Area Distribution Representatives
All Area Delivery Representatives
All Area Processing Representatives
All Representatives
All Members
Anybody i've missed
Bob
Dear Colleagues
Royal Mail management really are taking the piss.
Don't agree to anything.
Any enquiries in relation to this LTB should be addressed to POSTMAN,SITE ADMINISTRATOR
, e-mail: Susan@royalmailchat.org quoting Bob Gibson's famous "wave it" speech.
Yours sincerely
Fish
Nobody
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