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Cutting off with P&L partner and part time prep

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thefemalepostie
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Cutting off with P&L partner and part time prep

Post by thefemalepostie »

I am doing my first walk with a P&L partner at the end of this week. Now I don't want to go over my hours any day at all. I ment to start at 10 but have been asked to start at 9 but I still want to do only my 5 hours. What is the etiquette about cutting off of your partner doesn't mind going over?

Also it was mentioned that I will struggle to sort and prep my walk in time starting at 9. I thought part timers go there walk prepped for them even if covering a full time round and don't want to go over hours. Can someone tell me what should happen?

Many thanks.
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Re: Cutting off with P&L partner and part time prep

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thefemalepostie wrote:I am doing my first walk with a P&L partner at the end of this week. Now I don't want to go over my hours any day at all. I ment to start at 10 but have been asked to start at 9 but I still want to do only my 5 hours. What is the etiquette about cutting off of your partner doesn't mind going over?

Also it was mentioned that I will struggle to sort and prep my walk in time starting at 9. I thought part timers go there walk prepped for them even if covering a full time round and don't want to go over hours. Can someone tell me what should happen?

Many thanks.
If on 5 hours your walk should be prepped. Full stop.

They are trying to get you to work extra hours with the earlier start time.

You are absolutely within your rights to only work your contracted hours

If your partner wishes to work over , then fine . He or she should take you back to the DO within your hours.

Case closed
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Re: Cutting off with P&L partner and part time prep

Post by celerycelery »

Managers come out and pick up our cut offs as it was costing too much in overtime if driver was bringing them back then they went back and finished delivery off.
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Re: Cutting off with P&L partner and part time prep

Post by cyclemech1 »

celerycelery wrote:Managers come out and pick up our cut offs as it was costing too much in overtime if driver was bringing them back then they went back and finished delivery off.
Sooooooooooooooo much more efficient than one man/woman on a bike. :roll:
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Re: Cutting off with P&L partner and part time prep

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My concern is they will make the driver take my cut offs which is not fair to them. I don't want to upset my partner!!
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thefemalepostie wrote:My concern is they will make the driver take my cut offs which is not fair to them. I don't want to upset my partner!!
They cannot 'make' the driver do them. It's his/her choice
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Re: Cutting off with P&L partner and part time prep

Post by thefemalepostie »

hampshireman wrote:
thefemalepostie wrote:My concern is they will make the driver take my cut offs which is not fair to them. I don't want to upset my partner!!
They cannot 'make' the driver do them. It's his/her choice
Thanks. I'm dreading the end of the week but will see what it brings. Much easier on your own wit only yourself to worry about. Don't want to annoy or upset partner even if we are only together for one day lol.
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Re: Cutting off with P&L partner and part time prep

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hampshireman wrote:
thefemalepostie wrote:My concern is they will make the driver take my cut offs which is not fair to them. I don't want to upset my partner!!
They cannot 'make' the driver do them. It's his/her choice
Exactly. Well Put.

If person A gives you grief then simply remind him/her that the overtime is yours if you want it - if they dont then they should cut off and shut up. They HAVE to take you back or provide reasonable alternatives. If they want you to take a bus, factor in the extra time it will take and leave more. That's only if you want to use your own money although it should be refunded.
thefemalepostie wrote:
hampshireman wrote:
thefemalepostie wrote:My concern is they will make the driver take my cut offs which is not fair to them. I don't want to upset my partner!!
They cannot 'make' the driver do them. It's his/her choice
Thanks. I'm dreading the end of the week but will see what it brings. Much easier on your own wit only yourself to worry about. Don't want to annoy or upset partner even if we are only together for one day lol.
They killed the only enjoyment I had for the job when bikes went. Most of us came into this job to work alone.
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Pat Ostman wrote:Most of us came into this job to work alone.
I came in for the witty banter and that feeling of goodwill and lighthearted rapport between friends,the mutual trust and friendship among people who spend a lot of time together,the comradeship,the camaraderie,the spirit of friendly good-fellowship.
Instead i met a bunch of weird loners,most of whom still lived with their mothers. :neutral:
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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fishtank wrote:
Pat Ostman wrote:Most of us came into this job to work alone.
I came in for the witty banter and that feeling of goodwill and lighthearted rapport between friends,the mutual trust and friendship among people who spend a lot of time together,the comradeship,the camaraderie,the spirit of friendly good-fellowship.
Instead i met a bunch of weird loners,most of whom still lived with their mothers. :neutral:
The sorting office banter is one thing Fish, that can be good. But working alone outside is a more precise description of what I meant. And just for the record I thankfully no longer live with my mother. :Very Happy

Pretty sure if there was a poll most of us would not vote for park and loop but whatever floats your boat I guess.
Run, rabbit run. Dig that hole, forget the sun.
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Re: Cutting off with P&L partner and part time prep

Post by newtimes »

fishtank wrote:
Pat Ostman wrote:Most of us came into this job to work alone.
I came in for the witty banter and that feeling of goodwill and lighthearted rapport between friends,the mutual trust and friendship among people who spend a lot of time together,the comradeship,the camaraderie,the spirit of friendly good-fellowship.
Instead i met a bunch of weird loners,most of whom still lived with their mothers. :neutral:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRFfx6MtBjM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; :evil/mad
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Re: Cutting off with P&L partner and part time prep

Post by scoobydo79 »

thefemalepostie wrote:I am doing my first walk with a P&L partner at the end of this week. Now I don't want to go over my hours any day at all. I ment to start at 10 but have been asked to start at 9 but I still want to do only my 5 hours. What is the etiquette about cutting off of your partner doesn't mind going over?

Also it was mentioned that I will struggle to sort and prep my walk in time starting at 9. I thought :funneh part timers go there walk prepped for them even if covering a full time round and don't want to go over hours. Can someone tell me what should happen?

Many thanks.
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Post by dvbuk55 »

newtimes wrote:
fishtank wrote:
Pat Ostman wrote:Most of us came into this job to work alone.
I came in for the witty banter and that feeling of goodwill and lighthearted rapport between friends,the mutual trust and friendship among people who spend a lot of time together,the comradeship,the camaraderie,the spirit of friendly good-fellowship.
Instead i met a bunch of weird loners,most of whom still lived with their mothers. :neutral:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRFfx6MtBjM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; :evil/mad
:hmmmm I think ft assumed the mother was still in the land of the living - I mean rocking chairs aren't that easy to come by :chuckle
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Post by realitybites »

Part timers at our DO are meant to arrive at a fully prepped frame. 25 hour employees don't take out absorption either. Still pre revision. When P&L is finally introduced I don't know how 25 hour contractees will be utilised.
What was your typical day on a 25 hour contract before the revision?
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realitybites wrote:Part timers at our DO are meant to arrive at a fully prepped frame. 25 hour employees don't take out absorption either. Still pre revision. When P&L is finally introduced I don't know how 25 hour contractees will be utilised.
What was your typical day on a 25 hour contract before the revision?
That is really immaterial, because a real revision is quite different to anything else. The planners use the tools provided and there are a number of hours required for sorting, prepping etc. The object is to maintain as many jobs as possible both FT and PT and it requires a fair bit of juggling to accommodate everyone. Most of our 25 hour PT only work Thurs, Fri, Sat, which means Mon, Tue and Wed aren't available as days off to FT. It went to a vote and was agreed.