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sick leave -few questions
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veryn
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sick leave -few questions
This will be my 3rd week off sick (ive had flu and a chest infection)
I have a sick note from the doc which runs out today. I still don't feel 100% in going back to work on deliveries so im trying to get one more weeks sick note.
Now cos its a holiday tomorrow and say the doc puts my 2nd sick note dated from the 2 jan, will RM see that as a day skipped out? (new yrs day)
Ive also been told by a mate not to go back to work til i feel 100% better as he once went back from sick leave not feeling completly better....then 2 days later he got worse again and was off,so RM saw that as a 2nd absence.
Ive not had sick leave for at least a year, so what can i expect from the dom when i go back cos 3 weeks is kinda a long time? =/
I have a sick note from the doc which runs out today. I still don't feel 100% in going back to work on deliveries so im trying to get one more weeks sick note.
Now cos its a holiday tomorrow and say the doc puts my 2nd sick note dated from the 2 jan, will RM see that as a day skipped out? (new yrs day)
Ive also been told by a mate not to go back to work til i feel 100% better as he once went back from sick leave not feeling completly better....then 2 days later he got worse again and was off,so RM saw that as a 2nd absence.
Ive not had sick leave for at least a year, so what can i expect from the dom when i go back cos 3 weeks is kinda a long time? =/
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dvbuk55
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Re: sick leave -few questions
A stage 1.veryn wrote:This will be my 3rd week off sick (ive had flu and a chest infection)
I have a sick note from the doc which runs out today. I still don't feel 100% in going back to work on deliveries so im trying to get one more weeks sick note.
Now cos its a holiday tomorrow and say the doc puts my 2nd sick note dated from the 2 jan, will RM see that as a day skipped out? (new yrs day)
Ive also been told by a mate not to go back to work til i feel 100% better as he once went back from sick leave not feeling completly better....then 2 days later he got worse again and was off,so RM saw that as a 2nd absence.
Ive not had sick leave for at least a year, so what can i expect from the dom when i go back cos 3 weeks is kinda a long time? =/
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Pinky 1
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Re: sick leave -few questions
If the doc is happy that it's still the same illness that he initially issued the sick note for, he will backdate it, and it will still count as one absence.
Yes, a Stage 1 is the probable outcome, but nothing to worry over with your sick record
Yes, a Stage 1 is the probable outcome, but nothing to worry over with your sick record
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clashcityrocker
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Re: sick leave -few questions
A few years ago we were able to argue that swine flu be exempt from the Attendance Procedure.sgt,rock wrote:
They are supposed to take each case on its merits so you may or may not get a stage 1.
I don't see anything in the OPG's "casenotes" to give his rep any chance of helping him avoid a stage 1.
Perhaps if his DOM is looking for a fight with his senior managers, he will refuse to issue the stage 1.........Perhaps.
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comeracing
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Re: sick leave -few questions
stage 1 is issued if you have 2 absences within a 6 month period,you just cant get issued a stage 1 for 1 absence in 12 months...........................dvbuk55 wrote:A stage 1.veryn wrote:This will be my 3rd week off sick (ive had flu and a chest infection)
I have a sick note from the doc which runs out today. I still don't feel 100% in going back to work on deliveries so im trying to get one more weeks sick note.
Now cos its a holiday tomorrow and say the doc puts my 2nd sick note dated from the 2 jan, will RM see that as a day skipped out? (new yrs day)
Ive also been told by a mate not to go back to work til i feel 100% better as he once went back from sick leave not feeling completly better....then 2 days later he got worse again and was off,so RM saw that as a 2nd absence.
Ive not had sick leave for at least a year, so what can i expect from the dom when i go back cos 3 weeks is kinda a long time? =/
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doob
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- Joined: 20 Sep 2009, 21:52
- Gender: Male
Re: sick leave -few questions
Not being controversial in any way but u must have a very nice doctor to give u a sick note for 4 weeks for flu and chest infection. That kind of time off is normally pneumonia or fractures etc. U will definately get a stage 1 as they are very unlikely to see extenuating circumstances with that and what extended time u have had off over our busiest time. That aside u may as well stay off as it will all count the same
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doob
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Re: sick leave -few questions
U get a stage 1 for 14 days or more off in a 1 year period.
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fishtank
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Re: sick leave -few questions
comeracing wrote:
stage 1 is issued if you have 2 absences within a 6 month period,you just cant get issued a stage 1 for 1 absence in 12 months...........................
No it isn't.
A stage one review is triggered if you have 4 absences or 14 days in a 12 month period.
A review is not the same as issued even if management believe it is,
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Judgee
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Re: sick leave -few questions
fishtank wrote:comeracing wrote:
stage 1 is issued if you have 2 absences within a 6 month period,you just cant get issued a stage 1 for 1 absence in 12 months...........................
No it isn't.
A stage one review is triggered if you have 4 absences or 14 days in a 12 month period.
A review is not the same as issued even if management believe it is,
Thanks FT haven't laughed like that in ages!
Just trying to work out how many stage 1 reviews end up being dismissed hmmmm
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dvbuk55
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Re: sick leave -few questions
Oh yes you can!comeracing wrote:stage 1 is issued if you have 2 absences within a 6 month period,you just cant get issued a stage 1 for 1 absence in 12 months...........................dvbuk55 wrote:A stage 1.veryn wrote:This will be my 3rd week off sick (ive had flu and a chest infection)
I have a sick note from the doc which runs out today. I still don't feel 100% in going back to work on deliveries so im trying to get one more weeks sick note.
Now cos its a holiday tomorrow and say the doc puts my 2nd sick note dated from the 2 jan, will RM see that as a day skipped out? (new yrs day)
Ive also been told by a mate not to go back to work til i feel 100% better as he once went back from sick leave not feeling completly better....then 2 days later he got worse again and was off,so RM saw that as a 2nd absence.
Ive not had sick leave for at least a year, so what can i expect from the dom when i go back cos 3 weeks is kinda a long time? =/
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Pat Ostman
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Re: sick leave -few questions
Yes afraid so. One absence lasting I think 14 days, or four separate ones if they do not reach 14. In theory you can be put on a stage one for having four separate days off in 12 months, and they will.dvbuk55 wrote:Oh yes you can!comeracing wrote:stage 1 is issued if you have 2 absences within a 6 month period,you just cant get issued a stage 1 for 1 absence in 12 months...........................dvbuk55 wrote:A stage 1.veryn wrote:This will be my 3rd week off sick (ive had flu and a chest infection)
I have a sick note from the doc which runs out today. I still don't feel 100% in going back to work on deliveries so im trying to get one more weeks sick note.
Now cos its a holiday tomorrow and say the doc puts my 2nd sick note dated from the 2 jan, will RM see that as a day skipped out? (new yrs day)
Ive also been told by a mate not to go back to work til i feel 100% better as he once went back from sick leave not feeling completly better....then 2 days later he got worse again and was off,so RM saw that as a 2nd absence.
Ive not had sick leave for at least a year, so what can i expect from the dom when i go back cos 3 weeks is kinda a long time? =/
Six months period is for trialists or stage 2+
In 9/10 cases it's an automatic stage after a farcical 'review'. People in our DO (including me) that fall under the equalities act (and their illness IS related) get staged. There is no appeal, until you get the sack almost , only a grievance procedure.They are supposed to take each case on its merits so you may or may not get a stage 1.
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phronsias
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Re: sick leave -few questions
dvbuk55 wrote:A stage 1.veryn wrote:This will be my 3rd week off sick (ive had flu and a chest infection)
I have a sick note from the doc which runs out today. I still don't feel 100% in going back to work on deliveries so im trying to get one more weeks sick note.
Now cos its a holiday tomorrow and say the doc puts my 2nd sick note dated from the 2 jan, will RM see that as a day skipped out? (new yrs day)
Ive also been told by a mate not to go back to work til i feel 100% better as he once went back from sick leave not feeling completly better....then 2 days later he got worse again and was off,so RM saw that as a 2nd absence.
Ive not had sick leave for at least a year, so what can i expect from the dom when i go back cos 3 weeks is kinda a long time? =/
Hi
I'm been off sick with flu and chest infection too for the past two weeks, I got another weeks sick note from my doctor yesterday , I find it very hard to breath. I have to sit down when I climb the stairs and I feel as if Im having a heart attack., I got an inhaler from my gp yesterday which helps, Im on a stage 1 from a rta last Xmas so I'll receive a stage 2 for this.
All the best
P
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fishtank
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Re: sick leave -few questions
If it's less than 12 months from the date you were issued a stage 1 you'll trigger a stage 2 review.phronsias wrote:Hi
I'm been off sick with flu and chest infection too for the past two weeks, I got another weeks sick note from my doctor yesterday , I find it very hard to breath. I have to sit down when I climb the stairs and I feel as if Im having a heart attack., I got an inhaler from my gp yesterday which helps, Im on a stage 1 from a rta last Xmas so I'll receive a stage 2 for this.
All the best
P
Whether it's issued or not will be partly down to how good a rep you have but mostly down to how poor a manager you have.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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phronsias
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Re: sick leave -few questions
Hifishtank wrote:If it's less than 12 months from the date you were issued a stage 1 you'll trigger a stage 2 review.phronsias wrote:Hi
I'm been off sick with flu and chest infection too for the past two weeks, I got another weeks sick note from my doctor yesterday , I find it very hard to breath. I have to sit down when I climb the stairs and I feel as if Im having a heart attack., I got an inhaler from my gp yesterday which helps, Im on a stage 1 from a rta last Xmas so I'll receive a stage 2 for this.
All the best
P
Whether it's issued or not will be partly down to how good a rep you have but mostly down to how poor a manager you have.
Ive been down the stage 2 and 3 road before.
Regards
P