ANNOUNCEMENT : ALL OF ROYAL MAIL'S EMPLOYMENT POLICIES (AGREEMENTS) AT A GLANCE (Updated 2021)... HERE

ANNOUNCEMENT : PLEASE BE AWARE WE ARE NOT ON FACEBOOK AT ALL!

privitisation/park and loop

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.
bigal383
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 492
Joined: 11 Dec 2012, 16:20
Gender: Male

privitisation/park and loop

Post by bigal383 »

Since park and loop has been implemented i have noticed overtime going through the roof in places they have got people to undertake voluntary reduncies and now seem to be struggling to cope staff wise, I thought the whole idea was to save money? is this the same in everyone elses offices??

secondly when privitisation does and if it kicks in, iam guessin they will want to cut down costs so the whole park and loop and overtime going through the roof??

seems all abit backwards to myself?? any thoughts?
halfull
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 858
Joined: 22 Jan 2011, 13:37
Gender: Male

Re: privitisation/park and loop

Post by halfull »

when privatization comes park and loop will be no longer as its the single biggest failure in royal mail history. :cuppa
koolishy67
Posts: 665
Joined: 04 Nov 2010, 21:02
Gender: Male

Re: privitisation/park and loop

Post by koolishy67 »

i heard some where that if privitisation come altlest 25% jobs gone definatly to save money and may be 39 hours staff come down to 34 hours. :dcfo
TrueBlueTerrier
FORUM ADMINISTRATOR
Posts: 72727
Joined: 30 Dec 2006, 10:29
Gender: Male
Location: On my couch

Re: privitisation/park and loop

Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

koolishy67 wrote:i heard some where that if privitisation come altlest 25% jobs gone definatly to save money and may be 39 hours staff come down to 34 hours. :dcfo
Someone is spinning a line to you.

We don't know who is going to buy us yet. It could be a mixture of management buy out, public share issue and a company purchase, or it could be just one of those.

Therefore if we and the governemnt don't know (or least have not made public) then no one is going to know whats going to happen when we are privatised, its all guess work and fortune telling and about as useful as well.
All post by me in Green are Admin Posts.
Any post in any other colour is my own responsibility.
If you like a news story I posted please click the link to show support Any news stories you can't post - PM me with a link
My sharing of news articles should not be interpreted as an endorsement or condemnation of any particular viewpoint or the issues presented. I share them solely for informational purposes.
Wild Rover
Posts: 614
Joined: 03 Aug 2007, 17:41
Location: Jockistan

Re: privitisation/park and loop

Post by Wild Rover »

Higson should be on trial for spinning lies.
Regal
Posts: 132
Joined: 03 Nov 2007, 13:34
Gender: Male
Location: Yorkshire

Re: privitisation/park and loop

Post by Regal »

I agree. The cost of running p$l i.e van tax, insurance, mot and maintenance plus all the overtime is staggering. Im sure if we are privatized we'll be back on the bikes!
Tomorrow Never Knows
surreymonkey
Posts: 37
Joined: 14 Sep 2009, 20:44
Gender: Male

Re: privitisation/park and loop

Post by surreymonkey »

There are far too many managers standing around watching the troops. This would not be accepted by a private company.
Cedar_Room
Posts: 826
Joined: 31 Aug 2007, 14:09

Re: privitisation/park and loop

Post by Cedar_Room »

I was under the impression that P & L was brought in to accomodate the use of trolly's.

The trolly's were brought in due to health & safety regulations ie: loads of people claiming compo from RM regarding bad backs etc...

I might well be wrong,but i would say that Park & Loop is here to stay. :wave
“Shorts,in this weather?!”

“If they’re bills I don’t want ‘em!”

“What’s she been ordering now?”
clashcityrocker
Posts: 16689
Joined: 22 Sep 2009, 13:50
Gender: Male
Location: strummerville

Re: privitisation/park and loop

Post by clashcityrocker »

I think the trolleys are here to stay (and thank God for that) but the two posties to a van is such a wasteful delivery method and nobody appears to like it.
One postie - one High Capacity Trolley (MK 2), with proper vans to ensure conveyance out and back would work a lot better.
The conveyance driver would then be responsable for large packets etc which don't fit in the trolleys.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
fishtank
Posts: 19732
Joined: 28 Sep 2007, 17:22
Gender: Male

Re: privitisation/park and loop

Post by fishtank »

clashcityrocker wrote:One postie - one High Capacity Trolley (MK 2), with proper vans to ensure conveyance out and back would work a lot better..
HCT's have huge terrain limitations,high maintenance costs and transferring them to and from vehicles should be avoided if possible because it's a high accident risk.
I don't think they are the solution either. :neutral:
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
clashcityrocker
Posts: 16689
Joined: 22 Sep 2009, 13:50
Gender: Male
Location: strummerville

Re: privitisation/park and loop

Post by clashcityrocker »

fishtank wrote:
HCT's have huge terrain limitations,high maintenance costs and transferring them to and from vehicles should be avoided if possible because it's a high accident risk.
I understand the terrain limitations.
The maintenance costs would be reduced if you didn't buy tat in the first place.
And transferring them to and from vehicles wouldn't be a high accident risk if you had a proper tail lift on the transporting vehicle.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
Mark_Law22
Posts: 68
Joined: 20 Jan 2011, 18:43
Gender: Male

Re: privitisation/park and loop

Post by Mark_Law22 »

The reason for park and loop failing, is that the walks are too big when its busy and too small when its light. Royal mail needs to manage the flow of mail and packets better *god knows how* so that some of the mail we get on heavier days is distributed over the lighter days.
But tbh i enjoy the job a lot more now with the van sharing. I used to hate lugging bundles of mail out of post boxes and other bag drops :cry
halfull
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 858
Joined: 22 Jan 2011, 13:37
Gender: Male

Re: privitisation/park and loop

Post by halfull »

Mark_Law22 wrote:The reason for park and loop failing, is that the walks are too big when its busy and too small when its light. Royal mail needs to manage the flow of mail and packets better *god knows how* so that some of the mail we get on heavier days is distributed over the lighter days.
But tbh i enjoy the job a lot more now with the van sharing. I used to hate lugging bundles of mail out of post boxes and other bag drops :cry
wat????? to small when its light???????? :shock: :shock: !!!! somebody started the xmas spirit early i see :Applause , when its the lightest day of the week we still not get done as the jobs are just stupid big. its the stopping and starting constantly that eats into the delivery time. park and loop will never work, only if they make the jobs half the size which they will never do! :cuppa
DGP1
Posts: 15551
Joined: 07 Jun 2007, 20:39
Gender: Male
Location: Terminus

Re: privitisation/park and loop

Post by DGP1 »

Instead of LWT or HCTs why don't we us something like.......a bike, with a tray of the front for your bag, then maybe we could have boxes around the route to collect extra bags as we need them, maybe use a bigger van to deliver all the bulky packets...........just a thought mind you :nervous
I'm preparing myself for the zombie invasion, rule number 1 - Cardio
dvbuk55
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 16650
Joined: 02 Jun 2007, 19:17
Gender: Male

Re: privitisation/park and loop

Post by dvbuk55 »

Why would you need a vehicle to transport HCTs? They are only supposed to be used within 1 mile of the depot anything over that is a P&L according to the agreement. :hmmmm