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privitisation/park and loop
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bigal383
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privitisation/park and loop
Since park and loop has been implemented i have noticed overtime going through the roof in places they have got people to undertake voluntary reduncies and now seem to be struggling to cope staff wise, I thought the whole idea was to save money? is this the same in everyone elses offices??
secondly when privitisation does and if it kicks in, iam guessin they will want to cut down costs so the whole park and loop and overtime going through the roof??
seems all abit backwards to myself?? any thoughts?
secondly when privitisation does and if it kicks in, iam guessin they will want to cut down costs so the whole park and loop and overtime going through the roof??
seems all abit backwards to myself?? any thoughts?
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halfull
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Re: privitisation/park and loop
when privatization comes park and loop will be no longer as its the single biggest failure in royal mail history. 
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koolishy67
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Re: privitisation/park and loop
i heard some where that if privitisation come altlest 25% jobs gone definatly to save money and may be 39 hours staff come down to 34 hours. :dcfo
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: privitisation/park and loop
Someone is spinning a line to you.koolishy67 wrote:i heard some where that if privitisation come altlest 25% jobs gone definatly to save money and may be 39 hours staff come down to 34 hours. :dcfo
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Therefore if we and the governemnt don't know (or least have not made public) then no one is going to know whats going to happen when we are privatised, its all guess work and fortune telling and about as useful as well.
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Wild Rover
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Re: privitisation/park and loop
Higson should be on trial for spinning lies.
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Regal
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Re: privitisation/park and loop
I agree. The cost of running p$l i.e van tax, insurance, mot and maintenance plus all the overtime is staggering. Im sure if we are privatized we'll be back on the bikes!
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surreymonkey
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Re: privitisation/park and loop
There are far too many managers standing around watching the troops. This would not be accepted by a private company.
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Cedar_Room
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Re: privitisation/park and loop
I was under the impression that P & L was brought in to accomodate the use of trolly's.
The trolly's were brought in due to health & safety regulations ie: loads of people claiming compo from RM regarding bad backs etc...
I might well be wrong,but i would say that Park & Loop is here to stay.
The trolly's were brought in due to health & safety regulations ie: loads of people claiming compo from RM regarding bad backs etc...
I might well be wrong,but i would say that Park & Loop is here to stay.
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clashcityrocker
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Re: privitisation/park and loop
I think the trolleys are here to stay (and thank God for that) but the two posties to a van is such a wasteful delivery method and nobody appears to like it.
One postie - one High Capacity Trolley (MK 2), with proper vans to ensure conveyance out and back would work a lot better.
The conveyance driver would then be responsable for large packets etc which don't fit in the trolleys.
One postie - one High Capacity Trolley (MK 2), with proper vans to ensure conveyance out and back would work a lot better.
The conveyance driver would then be responsable for large packets etc which don't fit in the trolleys.
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fishtank
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Re: privitisation/park and loop
HCT's have huge terrain limitations,high maintenance costs and transferring them to and from vehicles should be avoided if possible because it's a high accident risk.clashcityrocker wrote:One postie - one High Capacity Trolley (MK 2), with proper vans to ensure conveyance out and back would work a lot better..
I don't think they are the solution either.
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clashcityrocker
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Re: privitisation/park and loop
I understand the terrain limitations.fishtank wrote:
HCT's have huge terrain limitations,high maintenance costs and transferring them to and from vehicles should be avoided if possible because it's a high accident risk.
The maintenance costs would be reduced if you didn't buy tat in the first place.
And transferring them to and from vehicles wouldn't be a high accident risk if you had a proper tail lift on the transporting vehicle.
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Mark_Law22
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Re: privitisation/park and loop
The reason for park and loop failing, is that the walks are too big when its busy and too small when its light. Royal mail needs to manage the flow of mail and packets better *god knows how* so that some of the mail we get on heavier days is distributed over the lighter days.
But tbh i enjoy the job a lot more now with the van sharing. I used to hate lugging bundles of mail out of post boxes and other bag drops
But tbh i enjoy the job a lot more now with the van sharing. I used to hate lugging bundles of mail out of post boxes and other bag drops
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halfull
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Re: privitisation/park and loop
wat????? to small when its light????????Mark_Law22 wrote:The reason for park and loop failing, is that the walks are too big when its busy and too small when its light. Royal mail needs to manage the flow of mail and packets better *god knows how* so that some of the mail we get on heavier days is distributed over the lighter days.
But tbh i enjoy the job a lot more now with the van sharing. I used to hate lugging bundles of mail out of post boxes and other bag drops
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DGP1
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Re: privitisation/park and loop
Instead of LWT or HCTs why don't we us something like.......a bike, with a tray of the front for your bag, then maybe we could have boxes around the route to collect extra bags as we need them, maybe use a bigger van to deliver all the bulky packets...........just a thought mind you 
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dvbuk55
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Re: privitisation/park and loop
Why would you need a vehicle to transport HCTs? They are only supposed to be used within 1 mile of the depot anything over that is a P&L according to the agreement. 