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Putting customers first:delivering to neighbours

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Putting customers first:delivering to neighbours

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It’s been one month since we started delivering to neighbours across the UK. It’s a major change and will take some time to settle down. But this way of working is vital if we are to ensure we’re putting customers first.

Being able to leave items with neighbours is a major step towards improving our customer service, by delivering more items first time and operating like other major delivery firms.

The change has led to many of you asking questions. The project team answers these, and we highlight the reasons why it is so important that we work in this way.

Why are we doing it?

Continued growth in the UK home shopping market means we are delivering more packets. This is good news for us because letters are in decline. However, many customers are often out during the day and these items are too big for letterboxes or need to be signed for.

Most people don’t want the inconvenience of going to their local delivery office to pick up their item. And for many of you, it is frustrating to take large items out, only to have to return them to the office.

This way of working is also a benefit for our customers sending mail out. Many businesses, particularly small companies, depend on home shopping to survive and succeed, and want their customers to get what they have ordered quickly and easily.

Operating like this will also reduce the need for redeliveries and the chance of customer complaints, saving us time and costs.

Are all products included?

No. It is important to remember that Special Delivery and International Signed For mail is not included. The existing process should be followed for these products.

What happens if customers don’t want their items delivered to a neighbour?

People can opt out. We have done a door drop leaflet to customers explaining how. We have produced special stickers to display on their letterbox or window. Please look out for them. If a customer asks you for one, they can contact Royal Mail Customer Services by telephone or via the dedicated website that has been set up. Details will also be kept in enquiry offices.

What do I do if someone has opted out?

Return undeliverable items to the delivery office in the normal way, remembering to leave a properly filled out ‘Something for you’ P739 card.

Can we ask customers who are displaying a sticker to take items for their neighbours?

No. The opt out sticker denotes that the customer does not want their items left with a neighbour and doesn’t want to receive items left for a neighbour.

What happens if a customer isn’t displaying an opt out sticker but refuses the item?

The item should be returned to the delivery office and a ‘Something for you’ card left for the recipient. The customer who refuses the item should be given details on how to opt out to avoid this situation arising in the future.

What happens if a customer says they don’t want an item left with a particular neighbour?

The customer needs to opt out as we cannot take individual preferences into account.

How do I decide which neighbour to deliver to?

Use your local knowledge and experience. If a suitable neighbour isn’t available, fill out a ‘Something for you’ card and return the item to the delivery office.

How does the customer know where their item has been left?

We have introduced a new ‘Something for you’ card with a section to say which neighbour the item has been left with. If you are unsure, speak to your office manager.

What happens if the neighbour denies having the item? Will I be held responsible?

Any issues should be referred to customer services in the normal way. If you have followed the correct process, you will not be held accountable.

What do I do if a Tracked item specifies a safe place for delivery?

Deliver the item to the specified place and not a neighbour (unless that is the requested safe place).

Has extra time to do this been factored into how long I have to complete my deliveries? :left:

During our trial of this way of working, no additional time was incurred. We are only attempting to deliver an item to a nearby location when someone isn’t in. Working in this way will save the time it takes to return items to the office and prepare items for redelivery.

How many houses should we try before taking the item back to the office?

You should use your judgment. It does not need to be the immediate neighbour, though making it as close as possible will save you and the customer time. If you can’t find a suitable neighbour, return the item to the office.
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Trial paved the way

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Bolton West was one of the delivery offices that trialled delivering to neighbours before we introduced this way of working across the UK. What did colleagues there think?

Postie one said...

‘Being able to deliver to neighbours makes things easier as it gives me more options when a customer is out. It means their item will be kept safe and secure.

‘It adds a little bit of extra time to the duty, but not too much.

‘Customers I’ve spoken to are happy with it. I haven’t had any negative feedback at all.

‘Some customers like their items left with a specific neighbour. If they tell us this, we can make a note of it for next time and pass the information on to the office if someone’s covering your duty.’

Postie two said...

‘I think sending out the leaflet telling customers about the trial and offering them stickers if they didn’t want to take part worked really well.

‘Not many people have opted out, but for those who have, the stickers make it clear for me. I know not to spend time trying to find a neighbour and I just take the item back to the office.

‘Christmas will be the big test for the scheme and it should come into its own then.’

Postie three said...


‘I worked on Christmas packet deliveries last year. As well as afternoon and evening deliveries, being able to leave items with neighbours was a big help.

‘You save time as you don’t bring as many items back to the office. That’s a big benefit for the caller’s office as they don’t have as many items to handle. It makes it much easier for us if we can just leave an item with a neighbour.

‘Our competitors already do it, so it can only benefit the business.’

I've removed the names of those that made the comments because to be honest comments like that will obviously take some stick and nobody wants to self google and find out their colleagues are having a laugh at their expense...if you really want their names they are on the myroyalmail site. :neutral:
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Re: Putting customers first:delivering to neighbours

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Why don't they quote this bloke?

Dear Royal Mail Group Limited,

I have recently attempted to opt-out of the Delivery to Neighbour
scheme. I have made five attempts; three online and two by 'phone.
After being promised that I would be sent the relevant sticker on
each occasion nothing has arrived.

On the last occasion I contacted you (24 Oct 2012), you told me
that no sticker would ever arrive and that Royal Mail had abandoned
attempts to send them out due to the large volume of requests being
made which would undermine the original purpose of the scheme if
Royal Mail responded.

In the period of time since the beginning of the full scheme (not
the trials) to the present date, how many opt-out requests has
Royal Mail received and how many stickers have been sent to the
requestors?

Yours faithfully,

David Crawley
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Re: Putting customers first:delivering to neighbours

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If Royal Mail had really wanted to 'help the public', this would have been an opt-in scheme, not an opt-out one. :roll:
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Re: Putting customers first:delivering to neighbours

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Still not doing it much, only if someone has said specifically to do it with a certain neighbour and until they give me more time then that will be the way it remains.
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Re: Putting customers first:delivering to neighbours

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DGP1 wrote:Still not doing it much, only if someone has said specifically to do it with a certain neighbour.....
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Re: Putting customers first:delivering to neighbours

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Pinky 1 wrote:If Royal Mail had really wanted to 'help the public', this would have been an opt-in scheme, not an opt-out one. :roll:
And the same goes for Door To Doors. :Very Happy
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Re: Putting customers first:delivering to neighbours

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I never delivery to neighbours, I tried once - the lady was on nights and was quite rude to me (with all good reason) about being woken up to take a parcel for her neighbour. If someone puts their head over the fence I will but I just don't have the time unless I cut off.
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Re: Putting customers first:delivering to neighbours

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clashcityrocker wrote:
DGP1 wrote:Still not doing it much, only if someone has said specifically to do it with a certain neighbour.....
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Re: Putting customers first:delivering to neighbours

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Still haven't had any training/WTLL on it so it won't be happening.
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Re: Putting customers first:delivering to neighbours

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Think it's a good idea for the big stuff. Frankly it's a pain in the arse messing about with loads of gigantic packets, unloading em all out of a poxy small van, and having to book all the boggers in at the end of a long day. If I can leave a neighbour with the problem, great.
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Re: Putting customers first:delivering to neighbours

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The poor guys in the callers office are experiencing a wave of customer complaints about non-delivery with neighbours.
Firstly, how the f@ck would the dipsh1ts know which absent neighbours we knocked on?
Secondly should the P739 have a section for which neighbour was attempted?
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Re: Putting customers first:delivering to neighbours

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Sidley wrote:The poor guys in the callers office are experiencing a wave of customer complaints about non-delivery with neighbours.
Firstly, how the f@ck would the dipsh1ts know which absent neighbours we knocked on?
Secondly should the P739 have a section for which neighbour was attempted?
The new 739 cards do have a section stating that "the item was left with you neighbour at............"
If it's returned to callers office then no need to state that delivery to neighbour was attempted.
It's your call whether or not to leave with a neighbour.
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Re: Putting customers first:delivering to neighbours

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Biker Mouse wrote:
Sidley wrote:The poor guys in the callers office are experiencing a wave of customer complaints about non-delivery with neighbours.
Firstly, how the f@ck would the dipsh1ts know which absent neighbours we knocked on?
Secondly should the P739 have a section for which neighbour was attempted?
The new 739 cards do have a section stating that "the item was left with you neighbour at............"
If it's returned to callers office then no need to state that delivery to neighbour was attempted.
It's your call whether or not to leave with a neighbour.
Maybe a section that we could use to Indicate which neighbour we attempted but failed to leave the parcel with? It may save our colleagues from earache. Obviously customers only care that theyve had to get off their fat arses, the reality of the leave-with-neighbour scheme only infuriates them further. " I've paid two whole quid for this service. Why won't you do just as I want,when I want, never mind time constrictions, legality, career prospects and profitability?"
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Re: Putting customers first:delivering to neighbours

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Has extra time to do this been factored into how long I have to complete my deliveries?

During our trial of this way of working, no additional time was incurred.

Because nobody did it.....
We are only attempting to deliver an item to a nearby location when someone isn’t in.
And that doesn't take any additional time because....?
Working in this way will save the time it takes to return items to the office

But even if you miraculously get rid of everything...you still have to take yourself back to the office so.....that saves time because....?
and prepare items for redelivery.
And that was part of my delivery time was it?

The union should absolutely murder Royal Mail over this,it's a ludicrous position to take that no additional time will be incurred,it would defy various theories of time and space to argue that point.
Our negotiators should listen quietly while RM make their case...and then start pissing themselves laughing.
A 5 year old child could win that argument. :cuppa
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