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Specials to neighbours

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PhilthyPhil
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Specials to neighbours

Post by PhilthyPhil »

As we are all aware specials can't be delivered to neighbours. This firm on the walk I have been doing this week keep asking me to take theirs to another nearby firm if they are not open when I get there and I have refused. Now they have spoken to the DOM and he has 'authorised' them to be left at the other firm. My question is can he actually do that since it would be breaking RM policy which he is not allowed to do? Even if he puts this in writing, which managers never want to do, I would still not be very happy with it.
jokerman1
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Re: Specials to neighbours

Post by jokerman1 »

Just get it in writing //your arse is covered
TheCobra
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Re: Specials to neighbours

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Yeh, refuse til you get it in writing, the DOM will happily sell you out down the river if there are problems.
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Re: Specials to neighbours

Post by fishtank »

jokerman1 wrote:Just get it in writing //your arse is covered
No it's not.
If your manager put it in writing that he wanted you to set fire to the mail you wouldn't be covered either.
Our obligation to follow security procedures cannot be overridden by individual managers that do not have the authority to override them. :neutral:
You would have some defence but you would still be in the firing line.
If i had to do it,it would be under protest and i would want that in writing...and witnessed.
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thecompletepackage
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Re: Specials to neighbours

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Or better still, get your DOM to sign for it before you take it out with you. See if it's OK then?! :no no
seeker019
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Re: Specials to neighbours

Post by seeker019 »

Get the company to put it in writing, on company paper and get 2 copies. Simples
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Sidley
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Re: Specials to neighbours

Post by Sidley »

Again, is it not down to the sender whether they'd want some random neighbour signing for stuff which could be important? F'rinstance a final demand on an overdue invoice, a change in the specifications of an order. 'Oops sorry I didn't get that update but here's the order for a million t shirts in the wrong colour. Nah that's not my signature those c@nts at RM obviously f*cked up again''
eastie
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Re: Specials to neighbours

Post by eastie »

get the DOM to deliver them
Caniel
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Re: Specials to neighbours

Post by Caniel »

Dig your heels in and refuse do it that's what I'd do.
DOM
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Re: Specials to neighbours

Post by DOM »

When there is nobody at the delivery address, you leave a p739 card and bring the item back to the office. That's the delivery specification for specials and I would never instruct anyone to do otherwise. The time you get someone at another address to sign for it and it goes missing, that's the delivery specification that YOU haven't followed. Don't mess about with specials.
Richard007
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Re: Specials to neighbours

Post by Richard007 »

Refuse & tell him him you don't want to be held at fault if special went missing you would be in crap & DOM would deny ever giving you permission no matter how well you think you get on with them DOMs are in it for the pay & glory and don't give a crap about you & me :nana
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Re: Specials to neighbours

Post by POSTMAN »

DOM wrote:When there is nobody at the delivery address, you leave a p739 card and bring the item back to the office. That's the delivery specification for specials and I would never instruct anyone to do otherwise. The time you get someone at another address to sign for it and it goes missing, that's the delivery specification that YOU haven't followed. Don't mess about with specials.
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beanmuncha
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Re: Specials to neighbours

Post by beanmuncha »

P739 it and bring it back, if the DOM thinks it okay let him deliver it. It's your job on the line if it goes wrong not his!!
S6 Stroller
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Re: Specials to neighbours

Post by S6 Stroller »

Sidley wrote:Again, is it not down to the sender whether they'd want some random neighbour signing for stuff which could be important? F'rinstance a final demand on an overdue invoice, a change in the specifications of an order. 'Oops sorry I didn't get that update but here's the order for a million t shirts in the wrong colour. Nah that's not my signature those c@nts at RM obviously f*cked up again''
Exactly. Further proof that certain members of RM's management team haven't got the brains they were born with. No offence meant to the good ones obv. There must be one or two.
PhilthyPhil
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Re: Specials to neighbours

Post by PhilthyPhil »

So the DOM has now written an instruction that all items for this firm inc SD must be attempted delivery at the other firm first before p739. Who would be the best person to contact regarding this as it is obviously goes against the delivery specification for SD. I am thinking management wise rather than union because they will do bugger all. Already spoken to rep about it and he wasn't interested.