delivery methods guide

[hans solo]

anyone got a copy of del methods
ie. how long del span for bags
del span for lwt
del span hct
whether its 3.5 , 4, 4.5 hrs or whatever
directors meeting us at wtl tmrrw and ive a few choice words re del methods and meal rel

[AnotherLimey]

anyone got a copy of del methods
ie. how long del span for bags
del span for lwt
del span hct
whether its 3.5 , 4, 4.5 hrs or whatever
directors meeting us at wtl tmrrw and ive a few choice words re del methods and meal rel

You are not going to be happy, it's around 6 hours with a trolly, but it does not have to be if your office picks a working week with less hours per day as mine did, PT doing 3.30 hours on delivery and fulltime 4.20, working quite well with the sorting backfilled on heavy weeks and the delivery span is workable.

[hans solo]

its because they are not using trollies and doing 4.5 hr del
they are still using bag over shoulder 16kg and 4.5 del span
not p&l either just same as before on your own with bigger deliveries working from boxes
and not taking any sort of meal relief mgmt turning blind eye and not enforcing ssow
so i need paperwork to prove a point
actually for benefit of workforce

[fishtank]

You are not going to be happy, it's around 6 hours with a trolly, but it does not have to be if your office picks a working week with less hours per day as mine did, PT doing 3.30 hours on delivery and fulltime 4.20, working quite well with the sorting backfilled on heavy weeks and the delivery span is workable.

Did you manage 1 in 4 or better?

[TrueBlueTerrier]

anyone got a copy of del methods
ie. how long del span for bags
del span for lwt
del span hct
whether its 3.5 , 4, 4.5 hrs or whatever
directors meeting us at wtl tmrrw and ive a few choice words re del methods and meal rel

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[AnotherLimey]

You are not going to be happy, it's around 6 hours with a trolly, but it does not have to be if your office picks a working week with less hours per day as mine did, PT doing 3.30 hours on delivery and fulltime 4.20, working quite well with the sorting backfilled on heavy weeks and the delivery span is workable.

Did you manage 1 in 4 or better?

No because it would have mean't 20% of fulltime having to go to parttime to achieve it, but believe me Fish when i say the workforce were happy to carry on having a rotating day off to keep a delivery that was doable for the older members, our FT deilverys are planned at 4.20 as i said but in truth are 3hs on an easy day being mon/tue/sat and 4hs on the busy days wed/thr/fri, i'm quite happy with delivery methods we have in our office compared to the some of the horror storys i have read here.

[shepherdess]

What about a walk with a lwt

[jcjd]

You are not going to be happy, it's around 6 hours with a trolly, but it does not have to be if your office picks a working week with less hours per day as mine did, PT doing 3.30 hours on delivery and fulltime 4.20, working quite well with the sorting backfilled on heavy weeks and the delivery span is workable.

Did you manage 1 in 4 or better?

No because it would have mean't 20% of fulltime having to go to parttime to achieve it, but believe me Fish when i say the workforce were happy to carry on having a rotating day off to keep a delivery that was doable for the older members, our FT deilverys are planned at 4.20 as i said but in truth are 3hs on an easy day being mon/tue/sat and 4hs on the busy days wed/thr/fri, i'm quite happy with delivery methods we have in our office compared to the some of the horror storys i have read here.

You may think you' are ok now but they will be back and will wish you had the other Saturady off,1 in 4 should be the minimum any office signs upto, far to many offices go for the easier option now thinking they will be left alone

[Throgg]

TBT, can you post a download link to the "Delivery Method Constraints" please?

All our deliveries are based on 4.15hrs, but according to what you've posted, deliveries using the smaller pouches should be a maximum of 3.5hrs.

[AnotherLimey]

You are not going to be happy, it's around 6 hours with a trolly, but it does not have to be if your office picks a working week with less hours per day as mine did, PT doing 3.30 hours on delivery and fulltime 4.20, working quite well with the sorting backfilled on heavy weeks and the delivery span is workable.

Did you manage 1 in 4 or better?

No because it would have mean't 20% of fulltime having to go to parttime to achieve it, but believe me Fish when i say the workforce were happy to carry on having a rotating day off to keep a delivery that was doable for the older members, our FT deilverys are planned at 4.20 as i said but in truth are 3hs on an easy day being mon/tue/sat and 4hs on the busy days wed/thr/fri, i'm quite happy with delivery methods we have in our office compared to the some of the horror storys i have read here.

You may think you' are ok now but they will be back and will wish you had the other Saturady off,1 in 4 should be the minimum any office signs upto, far to many offices go for the easier option now thinking they will be left alone

As i said with the majority of our office fulltime alot of the options mean't a certain amount of staff having to go partime, it also mean't longer working days meaning longer deliverys, and for what? one extra Saturday off every 12 weeks, we choose to stay as we were for deliverys that are achievable as long as the sorting is backfilled which was always the plan.

You say they will be back for more, arent they always? but if they come it will be for the early morning sorting overtime then the deliverys will fail meaning it will have to be put back in, like i said i have seen many horror storys on this site and from local offices, it may be seen as a failier by some not to get 1in4 but it was a choice and one i stand by as i know i'm happy having a job that is doable rather than an extra Saturday off every 12 weeks but miserable while i'm at work.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

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Although they may not be agreed documents - certainly RM withdrew them but no idea if they reintroduced them.

[Lincox]

TBT I think I can recall that our wonderful CWU agreed with RM to do away with the constraints on span not too long ago, and the document was withdrawn from the BT2010 Agreement without any discussion with the membership or those that voted yes. Shoot me down if I am wrong.

[clashcityrocker]

directors meeting us at wtl tmrrw and ive a few choice words re del methods and meal rel

So what did they have to say?

[hans solo]

still waiting on meet supposed to be wed now

[jcjd]

You are not going to be happy, it's around 6 hours with a trolly, but it does not have to be if your office picks a working week with less hours per day as mine did, PT doing 3.30 hours on delivery and fulltime 4.20, working quite well with the sorting backfilled on heavy weeks and the delivery span is workable.

Did you manage 1 in 4 or better?

No because it would have mean't 20% of fulltime having to go to parttime to achieve it, but believe me Fish when i say the workforce were happy to carry on having a rotating day off to keep a delivery that was doable for the older members, our FT deilverys are planned at 4.20 as i said but in truth are 3hs on an easy day being mon/tue/sat and 4hs on the busy days wed/thr/fri, i'm quite happy with delivery methods we have in our office compared to the some of the horror storys i have read here.

You may think you' are ok now but they will be back and will wish you had the other Saturady off,1 in 4 should be the minimum any office signs upto, far to many offices go for the easier option now thinking they will be left alone

As i said with the majority of our office fulltime alot of the options mean't a certain amount of staff having to go partime, it also mean't longer working days meaning longer deliverys, and for what? one extra Saturday off every 12 weeks, we choose to stay as we were for deliverys that are achievable as long as the sorting is backfilled which was always the plan.

You say they will be back for more, arent they always? but if they come it will be for the early morning sorting overtime then the deliverys will fail meaning it will have to be put back in, like i said i have seen many horror storys on this site and from local offices, it may be seen as a failier by some not to get 1in4 but it was a choice and one i stand by as i know i'm happy having a job that is doable rather than an extra Saturday off every 12 weeks but miserable while i'm at work.

I remember the same sorts of arguments moving from 6 to 5 day weeks. What benefits has your office gained from the agreement, more days off a better earning package? far to many offices take the easier option to keep rounds as short as possible while as others use the agreement against RM, they want you on 5 day weeks with later starts. That 1 extra saturday as a minimum may not sound mutch but its an extra long weekend, a day out with the family, a chance to go football again or a day's rest