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DOMs Stealing Overtime

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DOMs Stealing Overtime

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My overtime is regularly docked without any prior notification, the first I know about it is when I open my wage slip. When I challenge him he can't justify his actions. This has happened to me at more than one office and I know its a common occurrence where I am now. No dom has ever told he is going to dock me. My union rep keeps telling me the dom can't do this and if he does its effectively theft. He tells me he does remind the dom of his responsibilities on this issue, but nothing changes. I've had enough of this so I guess I'm going to have to put in a grievance or simply cut off.
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Re: DOMs Stealing Overtime

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If you're not being paid for your overtime, stop doing overtime. END.

In terms of the overtime you haven't been paid - keep whining. And whine to everybody; managers, reps, lawyers ...
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tell him you are cutting off until he pays you what is due.
Or better still JUST CUT OFF
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Re: DOMs Stealing Overtime

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Sergeant Blast wrote:My overtime is regularly docked without any prior notification, the first I know about it is when I open my wage slip. When I challenge him he can't justify his actions. This has happened to me at more than one office and I know its a common occurrence where I am now. No dom has ever told he is going to dock me. My union rep keeps telling me the dom can't do this and if he does its effectively theft. He tells me he does remind the dom of his responsibilities on this issue, but nothing changes. I've had enough of this so I guess I'm going to have to put in a grievance or simply cut off.
Name and shame - justsayit@royalmail.com

It worked for me!
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So its happening in other offices as well :no no
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Re: DOMs Stealing Overtime

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Viewfindergeneral wrote:
Sergeant Blast wrote:My overtime is regularly docked without any prior notification, the first I know about it is when I open my wage slip. When I challenge him he can't justify his actions. This has happened to me at more than one office and I know its a common occurrence where I am now. No dom has ever told he is going to dock me. My union rep keeps telling me the dom can't do this and if he does its effectively theft. He tells me he does remind the dom of his responsibilities on this issue, but nothing changes. I've had enough of this so I guess I'm going to have to put in a grievance or simply cut off.
Name and shame - justsayit@royalmail.com

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Really? What was their response and how did they put a stop to it? Did you suffer any repraisals as a result?
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Re: DOMs Stealing Overtime

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Just tell the DOM if the money is,nt in next weeks pay slip he will be receiving a claim from the Small Claims Court.
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Sergeant Blast wrote:
Viewfindergeneral wrote:
Sergeant Blast wrote:My overtime is regularly docked without any prior notification, the first I know about it is when I open my wage slip. When I challenge him he can't justify his actions. This has happened to me at more than one office and I know its a common occurrence where I am now. No dom has ever told he is going to dock me. My union rep keeps telling me the dom can't do this and if he does its effectively theft. He tells me he does remind the dom of his responsibilities on this issue, but nothing changes. I've had enough of this so I guess I'm going to have to put in a grievance or simply cut off.
Name and shame - justsayit@royalmail.com

It worked for me!
Really? What was their response and how did they put a stop to it? Did you suffer any repraisals as a result?
They wanted the details of who, where and when and shortly afterwards I had a meeting with the lead DSM who listened what I had to say and agreed that I had a case and I was paid what I was owed the following week. There were no reprisals because my DOM knew he was in the wrong and since this time I have had no trouble getting paid my overtime. Your DOM will continue fobbing you off unless you go above his head. I have found that once you have shown them that you are prepared to stand up to them and report your concerns to a higher authority that they tend to stop taking you for a mug.
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Re: DOMs Stealing Overtime

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this is fraud.

especially if his budget linked bonus is going to get bigger
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And illegal
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Our dom plays the swings and roundabouts game. Is that RM policy?
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"I'm losing on the swings, I'm losing on the roundabouts" Marillion - Script For A Jesters Tear
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Be prepared when you cut off he will say you done it before and say it's a performance issue may even blame you for working over in the first place.! Now how have royalmail come to this it is simple greed by her Moya Greene in order to sell the business off so she can gain massive share options on the back of hard working posties. Here is her wiki entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moya_Greene" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; She is not on our side only big business and the tory's and lib dems :dcfo :ncfo :vcfo why no smiley for moya she is the villain of the peace after all.
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Sidley wrote:"I'm losing on the swings, I'm losing on the roundabouts" Marillion - Script For A Jesters Tear
Best song ever :Very Happy
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Bag of d2d wrote:Our dom plays the swings and roundabouts game. Is that RM policy?
NO! There is no 'banking hrs' agreement.
There is the 30 mins 'voluntary' flex agreement where core hrs do not change in the week.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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